slinkydevil Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 What the police were faced with was not a demonstration, it was a riot. They responded with remarkable restraint. To be fair Rog they were hardly riots. Now go back to 1990 Poll Tax Riots - those were riots. I think the police (and I was too) were expecting it to be on a much larger scale of destruction and violence than there actually was. I'm pretty sure a few of the police were ready for a bit of a scrap and lashed out thinking it was going to go off big time, maybe the adrenaline got the better of them, but their training should allow some restraint. IMO the demonstrators showed considerable restraint at G20, I thought it would have been a lot worse and on a par with 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 What the police were faced with was not a demonstration, it was a riot. They responded with remarkable restraint. Riot? Does this look like a riot to you? 50% of the people on the day were peaceful hippy treehugger types, 50% were photographers & other media - and then there were two blokes who smashed a window in - that was it. The only "Riot" I found was this one, played on full blast through some old stereo. The cops on the day, however, were giving out quite different vibes - just look at the proper kettling exercise at the BoE & the subsequent fuck-ups by Met officers. Can I recommend you watch the current episode of Newswipe? http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jw...swipe_Episode_4 Not only is it a brilliant program (thanks Slim, wouldn't have known it was on if you hadn't posted about it..), but it also shows that the "Riot" was a pretty peaceful protest - unfortunately, peaceful doesn't look good on telly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Newswipe is almost the only good thing on TV at the moment. But is so good that it almost makes up for everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 hear hear we love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Reuters link The head of the country's police watchdog said on Sunday he had serious concerns about the policing of demonstrations after a series of allegations about police violence during protests at the G20 summit this month. Nick Hardwick, chairman of the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), told The Observer newspaper there should be a national debate over how police maintain public order. "It's got to be a democratic political question about how do we want to be policed," he said. Hardwick said the allegations of excessive force by police, and claims that some officers failed to display identification numbers correctly, raised questions about whether police were crossing the line between being public servants or masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yehyehyeh Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Police chief defends tactics Well he would woudltn he....... "policing of protests in the UK was "proportionate" and recent criticisms had lacked objectivity and perspective. " Someone died (at what looks like the hands of the police) and there many videos of people being attacked by the police, how can he say they did a good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 It's ACPO, not the Met. You need to understand how the police are organised and run in the UK and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 G20 officer resigns over comment A Metropolitan Police officer has resigned over inappropriate comments on a website about the G20 protest, acting Deputy Commissioner Tim Godwin said. Pc Hayter, from the Royal protection unit, allegedly wrote: "I see my lot have murdered someone again." Full story. A strange comment from an officer trained and authorised to carry firearms and use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 G20 officer resigns over comment A Metropolitan Police officer has resigned over inappropriate comments on a website about the G20 protest, acting Deputy Commissioner Tim Godwin said. Pc Hayter, from the Royal protection unit, allegedly wrote: "I see my lot have murdered someone again." Full story. A strange comment from an officer trained and authorised to carry firearms and use them. Considering the 'other officer's' comments about bashing hippies, he should have lost his job as soon as those comments were discovered. Regardless of what I think of the police, if they are supposedly acting in the public interest then then such a person shouldn't be in the police. But as for Hayter's comments, the police have murdered someone, yet again. I assume he is referring to De Menezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Tomlinson case looks more and more like at least manslaughter. BBC Link G20 death was not heart attack A new post mortem says Ian Tomlinson died from an abdominal haemorrhage not a heart attack after contact with police during the G20 protests. Unlawful killing. Not surprised at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 G20 officer resigns over comment A Metropolitan Police officer has resigned over inappropriate comments on a website about the G20 protest, acting Deputy Commissioner Tim Godwin said. Pc Hayter, from the Royal protection unit, allegedly wrote: "I see my lot have murdered someone again." Full story. A strange comment from an officer trained and authorised to carry firearms and use them. Considering the 'other officer's' comments about bashing hippies, he should have lost his job as soon as those comments were discovered. Regardless of what I think of the police, if they are supposedly acting in the public interest then then such a person shouldn't be in the police. But as for Hayter's comments, the police have murdered someone, yet again. I assume he is referring to De Menezes. Or Blair Peach? (hope I've spelt his name right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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