Slim Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Who cares. The bad guy is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck my siles Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Burial at sea! I wonder what altitude the Apache was at when they tipped him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Burial at sea! I wonder what altitude the Apache was at when they tipped him out? They may have done it from the USS Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keigmeister Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Yes the US and the west set him up and financed him whilst it suited their purpose and then there was a falling out. What he and his followers and other opponents of the western system did is no worse than what the US, in particular and the west in general, does, and has done for years, daily, at huge cost in human lives for economic interest. We are still propping up the most apalling regimes of torturers and oppressors to suit our interests. Is it any wonder that freedom fighters take extreme measures. We have to stop being so western and christian centric and stop trying to export our culture, ideas and mores under a thinly disguised veil of economic self interest and we have to learn to live together. Working together and education will do more to stop this long terms than wars, occupation, and bombs Fear and knee jerk response wil only make it worse I wonder, given the apparent antipathy between Gadaffi and Bin Laden/al Quaeda just who we are supporting in Libya No one knows who the rebels are, other than that some of them are on the US State Departments terrorist watch list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitantDogOwner Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Working together and education will do more to stop this long terms than wars, occupation, and bombs Unfortunately, when fighting an enemy that is so totally entrenched in its faith and is convinced that dying is better than living, the only way to succeed is to utterly destroy them. You can kill them, but the ideal they fight for remains. To kill the ideal, you must first utterly destory those who believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keigmeister Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/02/osama.twitter.reports/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn Twitter user unknowingly reported bin Laden attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Working together and education will do more to stop this long terms than wars, occupation, and bombs Unfortunately, when fighting an enemy that is so totally entrenched in its faith and is convinced that dying is better than living, the only way to succeed is to utterly destroy them. You can kill them, but the ideal they fight for remains. To kill the ideal, you must first utterly destory those who believe it. That sounds remarkably like genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keigmeister Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Working together and education will do more to stop this long terms than wars, occupation, and bombs Unfortunately, when fighting an enemy that is so totally entrenched in its faith and is convinced that dying is better than living, the only way to succeed is to utterly destroy them. You can kill them, but the ideal they fight for remains. To kill the ideal, you must first utterly destory those who believe it. That sounds remarkably like genocide. You can't utterly destroy them though, not at least without hurting or killing innocent people along the way. Look at the strikes on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border which often result in innocent deaths. I do believe in killing to save life and preserve life but I think great care needs to be taken not to hurt the innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 http://maps.google.com/ copy in: 34.169382,73.242561 gives his compound Although it looks a lot more complete on this BBC report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13257330 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 This guy was tweeting live as it happened - he now has a huge following on Twitter http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual See around 22hours ago (by this post) on his tweets: "Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Working together and education will do more to stop this long terms than wars, occupation, and bombs Unfortunately, when fighting an enemy that is so totally entrenched in its faith and is convinced that dying is better than living, the only way to succeed is to utterly destroy them. You can kill them, but the ideal they fight for remains. To kill the ideal, you must first utterly destory those who believe it. Is that a reference to the US christian military and cultural imperialists or their muslim opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 http://maps.google.com/ copy in: 34.169382,73.242561 Or use a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 To kill the ideal, you must first utterly destory those who believe it. To kill the ideal you have to come up with a better one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Apparently he was taken by surprise; he didn't think they collected bins on a Bank Holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He had a lovely face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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