carbon selector Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 The Isle of Man where you can - not the Isle of Wight where you might. Perhaps if they justs dissed all the other Islands: Isle of Eigg where you have to beg Isle of Capri where everything is crappy Isle of Hong Kong where everything is wrong Isle of Singapore where they will show you the door Isle of Trinidad where everything is bad Isle of Tenerife where there are thiefs Isle of Madeira where everything is dearer Isle of Lanzarote where they are all potty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erco Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Oh I see they did get the consultants to do it for them. http://www.isleofman...a=communityhome At least it was a local firm. Usually they go off Island for this sort of thing. Aren't there enough DED Sales & Marketing bods already? (quick search on linkedin would suggest otherwise) Why couldn't they have done it? Why is it the taxpayer always pays twice? Once for the Gov bod and then again for the Consultant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Oh I see they did get the consultants to do it for them. http://www.isleofman...a=communityhome At least it was a local firm. Usually they go off Island for this sort of thing. Aren't there enough DED Sales & Marketing bods already? (quick search on linkedin would suggest otherwise) Why couldn't they have done it? Why is it the taxpayer always pays twice? Once for the Gov bod and then again for the Consultant? Because the gov bots need someone to blame when it goes wrong - you don't expect them to take the fall, do you? Cushy job and pension are at risk here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erco Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 You've hit the nail smack bang on the head there Amadeus Be interesting to see how much these people are being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 The Isle of Man, where you can........ see the Home of Rest for Old Horses.... as long as it's not on a weekend or bank holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey boy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 You've hit the nail smack bang on the head there Amadeus Be interesting to see how much these people are being paid. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Because the gov bots need someone to blame when it goes wrong - you don't expect them to take the fall, do you? Cushy job and pension are at risk here... That is so true Amadeus, the island has an ever expanding sector of consultants from every discipline you can think of, and a lot you cant, with the sole purpose of protecting the civil servants bottoms. I dont think that consultants are all bad, there are some really good ones on the island and despite popular belief, they can and do provide a worthwhile service. It is the doubling up of the process that gets me, if the department lacks the skills then yes a consultant can be a cost effective way of progressing something out of the ordinary. It is when the department already employ people who are qualified to do that kind of work and they employ a consultant to do it for them, that is the problem. There are people on big money in the civil service, the big salary in the private sector comes with certain expectations, one of which is you must make decisions within your area of expertise. if you are not prepared to put your name to something then you should not be in that often highly paid position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Be broke but still give a nice expensive rib away to Sierra Leone http://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/island-to-gift-customs-boat-to-sierra-leone/ An island government that has to many boats!! ffs somebody shoot me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 The Isle of Man, where you can........ see the Home of Rest for Old Horses.... as long as it's not on a weekend or bank holiday. Could never understand why a charity would not make the most of children at weekends and families at bank holidays ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erco Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Because the gov bots need someone to blame when it goes wrong - you don't expect them to take the fall, do you? Cushy job and pension are at risk here... That is so true Amadeus, the island has an ever expanding sector of consultants from every discipline you can think of, and a lot you cant, with the sole purpose of protecting the civil servants bottoms. I dont think that consultants are all bad, there are some really good ones on the island and despite popular belief, they can and do provide a worthwhile service. It is the doubling up of the process that gets me, if the department lacks the skills then yes a consultant can be a cost effective way of progressing something out of the ordinary. It is when the department already employ people who are qualified to do that kind of work and they employ a consultant to do it for them, that is the problem. There are people on big money in the civil service, the big salary in the private sector comes with certain expectations, one of which is you must make decisions within your area of expertise. if you are not prepared to put your name to something then you should not be in that often highly paid position. Therein lies the rub.... Instead of cutting back on front-line services why not just bin these 'nice to have' positions and hire a bunch of contract managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The Isle of man ,where the sun always shines(Depending on where you work?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 THE ISLE OF MAN,WHERE YOU WISH THEY COULD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 THE ISLE OF MAN,WHERE YOU WISH THEY COULD Finish their sentences like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The Isle of Man, where you can have a pub all to yourself on a Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deejay Denzel Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Google Search: Where you can - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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