P.K. Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, HeliX said: And that Israel has violent intent against civilians. And that Keir Starmer is unfit to be Prime Minister. And that you're losing it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 18 minutes ago, P.K. said: And that you're losing it... Stating facts is a symptom of that is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 16 minutes ago, HeliX said: Stating facts is a symptom of that is it? "Facts" - you're having a laugh! For starters members of Hamas are civilians! So of course the IDF have " violent intent" towards them. It's called fighting an insurgency. Dear me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 34 minutes ago, P.K. said: "Facts" - you're having a laugh! For starters members of Hamas are civilians! So of course the IDF have " violent intent" towards them. It's called fighting an insurgency. Dear me... Do you think that's a reasonable interpretation of the discussion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, HeliX said: Do you think that's a reasonable interpretation of the discussion? That's rich coming from you. Even after being told a Grad (translation "hail") rocket had a 20kg warhead you still claimed "They are fireworks. Hence the near zero damage from them in several decades." which frankly is in complete denial. To counter the increasing number of rockets Israel developed the "Iron Dome" system. They didn't have to as they already had effective counter-battery radars. They track the trajectory of a missile which immediately gives away the launch site. You can have a Ground-to-Ground targeted missile in the air before the enemy rocket even hits the ground. They did not deploy them because drone footage showed the launchers were all deliberately placed in heavily populated built-up areas to act as a counter-strike shield. But if they hadn't deployed Iron Dome there would be more Israeli casualties and even more Palestinian casualties from counter-strikes. Unfortunately not degrading the Hamas systems meant they could amass enough to overwhelm Iron Dome for the October assault. However you can be sure that their whereabouts were marked and hopefully destroyed by the ground offensive... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 We don't need to worry about it, it's fine that Israel is violent towards 2.2million civilians because a couple thousand of them might be Hamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 For fuck sake Helix. There were 30,000 Hamas fighters in a population of 2 million. This compares to 80,000 troops for the entire UK. The entire infrastructure of Gaza is geared to embed Hamas. You are in cloud cuckoo land pretending these are boy scouts with fireworks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 One of Helix's fireworks Now what was Lenin's term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, Chinahand said: One of Helix's fireworks Now what was Lenin's term? We were talking about rockets from Gaza. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, HeliX said: We were talking about rockets from Gaza. Currently used by hamas, quantities unknown but resupply provided by Iran. As are the houthi rebel groups which're also targeting Israel... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, Chinahand said: For fuck sake Helix. There were 30,000 Hamas fighters in a population of 2 million. This compares to 80,000 troops for the entire UK. The entire infrastructure of Gaza is geared to embed Hamas. You are in cloud cuckoo land pretending these are boy scouts with fireworks. Not sure why anyone engages with him. You say black, he’ll say white then twist his answer to something else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Lots of fuss about rockets that have killed 27 people in 10 years. No fuss about Israel killing an average of 100 children per day for 6 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Surprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 In It's present form Gaza is unsustainable. Only a complete and utter idiot would fail to realise that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, P.K. said: In It's present form Gaza is unsustainable. Only a complete and utter idiot would fail to realise that... Who are you arguing with? Nobody thinks Gaza is in a good sustainable state, but some of us dont think that can be used to handwave away massive amounts of human suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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