Tempus Fugit Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I like the look to what I've seen so far, why are people so attached to grotty old chipping that were unpleasant to walk on never mind push a wheelchair or pram. I also like the look of Strand Street as it's about time an effort was made to make the Island look clean and smart instead of the tatty worn out pavements we have at present. A Dandara house looks clean and smart & has all the light switches and sockets where they can be easily reached from a wheel chair. They also have zero character and will look a hell of a lot more tatty & worn out in 50 years time than buildings that have stood for centuries. Why? Because they are built with one objective in mind - to make Dandara the maximum amount of profit. The same can be said for Laxey, Ramsey and other regeneration schemes around the island, except the profits being maximised are those of Grandmaster Darylmple and other favoured contractors who are earning millions out of throwing a bit of patio stone with LED lights around our town centres. if it weren't for modern efficient new-build houses which you decry so much, where do you suggest all the present residents would have found enough tumble-down victorian un-insulated draughty des-res'es ? - suggest the Onchan new-build bungalows of some years back, and all the reports were of windows made of softwood which had to be replaced in one handful of years, I have a new-build as you decry and has hardwood windows as good as new 24 years later, but that's another story and I have no granite paving either however, back at the station, I'm glad I gave it a miss when wondering where to go for a walk a few weeks ago, maybe start a thread about all the places we don't bother going any more since they've been spoiled, start with Douglas Prom, add Laxey........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Another Dept of incompetence paving howler is featured in the news article linked below. I challenge you check the photos on that page and see if you can keep a straight face. DOI's deformed triskellion link: http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/three-legs-paving-sparks-online-row-1-7141393 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey boy Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 if it weren't for modern efficient new-build houses which you decry so much, where do you suggest all the present residents would have found enough tumble-down victorian un-insulated draughty des-res'es ? - suggest the Onchan new-build bungalows of some years back, and all the reports were of windows made of softwood which had to be replaced in one handful of years, I have a new-build as you decry and has hardwood windows as good as new 24 years later, but that's another story and I have no granite paving either All I said was that Dandara houses are characterless & likely to look a lot more tatty in 50 years time than houses which have stood for centuries. How you get from that to me decrying all modern efficient new builds is a mystery to me. Some new builds are full of character & built to a high standard with materials that will stand the test of time. Dandara's are not amongst them, you only need to look at how many of them have lost entire roofs in the wind to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 if it weren't for modern efficient new-build houses which you decry so much, where do you suggest all the present residents would have found enough tumble-down victorian un-insulated draughty des-res'es ? - suggest the Onchan new-build bungalows of some years back, and all the reports were of windows made of softwood which had to be replaced in one handful of years, I have a new-build as you decry and has hardwood windows as good as new 24 years later, but that's another story and I have no granite paving either All I said was that Dandara houses are characterless & likely to look a lot more tatty in 50 years time than houses which have stood for centuries.How you get from that to me decrying all modern efficient new builds is a mystery to me. Some new builds are full of character & built to a high standard with materials that will stand the test of time. Dandara's are not amongst them, you only need to look at how many of them have lost entire roofs in the wind to see that. And all the cracks in the render, it's their trademark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Is Chinese granite on special offer? Yes - Howard Quayle is detouring there on his way back from New Zealand to pick up another couple of thousand tons which he'll bring back inside his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 I was down there yesterday and the granite looks terrible in that setting My objection is not with the scheme itself but the actual granite surface, if it were done in something more apt we could have a station to be proud of As pointed out in this thread, there is plenty of locally available stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The only suggested local stone so far has been Dreemskerry. Good luck getting any stone from there, that quarry hasn't operated for several years now and has no planning permission or minerals licence for any further extraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The lousy build quality of earlier 'modern' housing on the Island were 100% down to lack of adequate building codes and the builders taking advantage of that and using crap construction methods and materials. Decent builders would have not done so. Now go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 A year or so ago one of the building companies said as much, I remember the spokeswoman (?) saying that they have had to improve quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey boy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 A year or so ago one of the building companies said as much, I remember the spokeswoman (?) saying that they have had to improve quality. They would say that though wouldn't they - some over the most recent developments are of terrible quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The only suggested local stone so far has been Dreemskerry. Good luck getting any stone from there, that quarry hasn't operated for several years now and has no planning permission or minerals licence for any further extraction. did they even try looking at B&Q? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zammo Maguire Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Now Snaefell is getting lots of pre cast concrete slabs with loads of little 3 legs on them http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/snaefell-railway-works-get-three-legs-makeover-1-7148191 Longworth sure knows how to splash the cash doesn't he. What budget problems..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I just typed all that out not knowing it's available for free to copy and paste from their website. UGHHHHH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Is Chinese granite on special offer? Yes - Howard Quayle is detouring there on his way back from New Zealand to pick up another couple of thousand tons which he'll bring back inside his ego. I hope he's accounted for the fact that they are sold in Yuan..... we wouldn't want any currency exchange cock ups like we did with the granite from Norway, would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Is Chinese granite on special offer? Yes - Howard Quayle is detouring there on his way back from New Zealand to pick up another couple of thousand tons which he'll bring back inside his ego. I hope he's accounted for the fact that they are sold in Yuan..... we wouldn't want any currency exchange cock ups like we did with the granite from Norway, would we? Is that Yuan Watterson by any chance? Incidentally, I apologise unreservedly for the flippant remark I made in an early post on this thread suggesting that the works didn't matter as this was only Laxey. I assure you that was a joke. What isn't a joke is the catastrophic urban devastation wreaked on a once charming Victorian tram station. I was in Laxey today (for the first time in many, many months) and holy fucking shit what an abomination. Incredibly, I see that supercilious bag of crap Rodan, as chair of Laxey Regeneration Committee, is quoted on IOM Newspapers "respectfully" asking people to wait until the works are concluded before passing judgement. Er... no thanks Steve, why don't you respectfully fuck off and explain to the residents how you permitted the granite monster to shit all over their beautiful tram station? Actually, it's probably Rodan who is shitting himself now because although a pompous cartoon jock with an ego bigger than his intellect, he's just bright enough to realize that a three dimensional vote-losing machine is now sitting in the heart of Laxey village. When the election campaign hots up just wait for the "they made me do it" excuse. Voters of Garff... Do yourself a favour... Lose the fat-boy vandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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