Interesting at the airport !

[madmanxpilot]

And, having just read that aeroinside 'report' - it is just a cut and paste from the AvHerald report which came out a couple of weeks ago. The statement that says the weather was good enough in Belfast is laughable. The forecast and actual cross winds 26-46 knots) were way above the maximum demonstrated crosswind for the Let (19.5) knots.

[Utah 01]

The Irish report into the Cork crash was lengthy (in terms of time to report), lengthy (in terms of size) and damning, raising inumerable questions about the entire (then) Manx2 commercial and operating model and calling for action by regulatory authorities.

 

The result was......nada; convenient 'blind eyes' turned all over Europe.

[Andy Onchan]

The Irish report into the Cork crash was lengthy (in terms of time to report), lengthy (in terms of size) and damning, raising inumerable questions about the entire (then) Manx2 commercial and operating model and calling for action by regulatory authorities.

 

The result was......nada; convenient 'blind eyes' turned all over Europe.

So why was nothing done after that event to outlaw such ticketing operations?

[Douglas Prom]

 

 

 

There isn't even a snowflake in hells chance of that happening.

Possibly not, the UK CAA are very good at sloping shoulders - like most regulators they seem to avoid responsibility for their actions or inactions. Nevertheless they have clearly shut down an operation, whether one approves of the operation or not, on the basis of untrue claims they are making in respect of another regulator's activity. Eastern may well prove to be a better option for the island once they settle in, I have been satisfied with their services when I've used them, but if the reports are true that the Czech regulators are not investigating Van Air (who seem to be still operating n the rest of Europe unfettered) for this "incident" then Citywing and Van Air appear to have been mistreated.

As madmanxpilot has said. The truth will come out. Then you'll see why there is zero chance.

[craggy_steve]

As madmanxpilot has said. The truth will come out. Then you'll see why there is zero chance.

It will be interesting when it does. The reports published to date simply don't stack up as evidence of some serious wrongdoing, and much of the commentary seems to be simple hate from people who disapprove of the virtual airline business model.

[Tarne]

That's what it seems like to me Craggy Steve, but what can you do, it's done now.

[Albert Tatlock]

Some well informed people on here.

[hboy]

Some well informed people on here.

Well the pilots are. Everyone else seems clueless (as usual).

[flaps]

That report on the aviation website has some glaring innacuracies. In particular, the claim that the storm had passed after 15 minutes, and the plane taxied to stand, is nonsense, as proved by the weather reports in it which show very high winds for a couple of hours. I heard about the incident on the radio, and was driving past the airport over an hour later, and it was still out on the runway surrounded by fire engines. Just because it's on the internet, doesn't mean it's true.

[madmanxpilot]

 

As madmanxpilot has said. The truth will come out. Then you'll see why there is zero chance.

It will be interesting when it does. The reports published to date simply don't stack up as evidence of some serious wrongdoing, and much of the commentary seems to be simple hate from people who disapprove of the virtual airline business model.

The only facts that we know are:

 

1) That the aircraft departed for BHD, attempted a landing and came back to the IOM.

 

2) What the weather forecast was for that morning and what the actual weather conditions were at the time the flight operated.

 

Those who have knowledge of what is required to legally operate a commercial flight have stated here that those the two known facts prove that the flight was operated illegally and with great risk.

 

We also know that the CAA have sought fit to suspend Van Air's right to operate in the UK. If the above mentioned flight had resulted from an individual's recklessness, then it would be that individual who would have been subject to censure, not the whole operarion.

 

It therefore follows that this incident in question is not isolated, that it is part of a series of events that are endemic to that operator.

 

I personally know of many other examples of malpractice that I have observed, and reported.

 

The CAA will no doubt publish a full explanation of why they took this action in due course. I'm just glad that they acted before we had another Cork type incident.

[notwell]

How often have you flown and put your own life at risk?

[slinkydevil]

How often have you flown and put your own life at risk?

 

Everytime you fly isn't it?

[notwell]

Not really.

[Amadeus]

Well, technically yes.

[Albert Tatlock]

 

As madmanxpilot has said. The truth will come out. Then you'll see why there is zero chance.

 

It will be interesting when it does. The reports published to date simply don't stack up as evidence of some serious wrongdoing, and much of the commentary seems to be simple hate from people who disapprove of the virtual airline business model.

Wasn't a similar model criticised in this? ...

 

https://youtu.be/NiwZtIUOSak