woolley Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just now, guzzi said: I suspect many remainers voted Labour because they preferred Labour's vision of Twice. Once on the principle, and again when possessed of the actual terms of exit. That wasn't in Labour's election manifesto. Only encourages the EU not to negotiate seriously because the shittier the deal on offer, the greater the chance that referendum 2 goes for remain and the gravy train continues for them. Stupid idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, guzzi said: I suspect many remainers voted Labour because they preferred Labour's vision of Twice. Once on the principle, and again when possessed of the actual terms of exit. labour have never had a policy on another vote, infact they don't have a policy on the eu, they can't even discuss it at conference...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, woolley said: That wasn't in Labour's election manifesto. Only encourages the EU not to negotiate seriously because the shittier the deal on offer, the greater the chance that referendum 2 goes for remain and the gravy train continues for them. Stupid idea. Editing cock up. The Labour reference was in error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, guzzi said: Editing cock up. The Labour reference was in error. like the remainers promise of no eu army...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It makes perfect sense to hold a second referendum on the actual terms of exit. It also makes perfect sense to test the decision in principle that was taken last year against reality, when reality last time around was represented by a false slogan on a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just now, guzzi said: It makes perfect sense to hold a second referendum on the actual terms of exit. It also makes perfect sense to test the decision in principle that was taken last year against reality, when reality last time around was represented by a false slogan on a bus. Based on that, we should insist they hold the general election again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 minute ago, guzzi said: It makes perfect sense to hold a second referendum on the actual terms of exit. It also makes perfect sense to test the decision in principle that was taken last year against reality, when reality last time around was represented by a false slogan on a bus. Especially when the size and duration of the detrimental impact on UK economic growth can be estimated with greater accuracy. That should sharpen the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, guzzi said: It makes perfect sense to hold a second referendum on the actual terms of exit. It also makes perfect sense to test the decision in principle that was taken last year against reality, when reality last time around was represented by a false slogan on a bus. Ahem. I repeat. Only encourages the EU not to negotiate seriously because the shittier the deal on offer, the greater the chance that referendum 2 goes for remain and the gravy train continues for them. Stupid idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Especially when the size and duration of the detrimental impact on UK economic growth can be estimated with greater accuracy. That should sharpen the mind. Eh? You got a crystal ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, guzzi said: It makes perfect sense to hold a second referendum on the actual terms of exit. It also makes perfect sense to test the decision in principle that was taken last year against reality, when reality last time around was represented by a false slogan on a bus. yes the slogan on the bus should of been more, £362 million was the true number.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Especially when the size and duration of the detrimental impact on UK economic growth can be estimated with greater accuracy. That should sharpen the mind. has any estimate ever been right....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just now, woolley said: Eh? You got a crystal ball? We alredy agreed in another topic that there would be a detrimental effect, did we not? It's not a hazardous assumption to make that better estimates of this detrimental effect will be possible once further information on the difficulties and hoops that have to be jumped through to establish customs and trade infrastructure (not to mention the "divorce bill"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 minute ago, woody2 said: has any estimate ever been right....... I've made an estimate of one thing, that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just now, Bobbie Bobster said: We alredy agreed in another topic that there would be a detrimental effect, did we not? It's not a hazardous assumption to make that better estimates of this detrimental effect will be possible once further information on the difficulties and hoops that have to be jumped through to establish customs and trade infrastructure (not to mention the "divorce bill"). Well yes. But I'd have gone for WTO already with a promise of no tariffs if reciprocated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, woolley said: Eh? You got a crystal ball? Well Brexiteers must have one...seeing as everything is going to be sunshine and rainbows, it must be...otherwise they wouldn't have voted for it...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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