CharlieBrown Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 And where are all the bikers going then? Yesterday had my first near head on with a visiting biker coming well over a hundred at the braaid, if you keep them lapping the mountain then at least we can all avoid that or choose to join in. Really it should be do whatever you want on the mountain and speed limits enforced with zero tolerance elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 There is a hardcore of motorcyclists who simply wouldn't come if the IOM denied them the chance to ride like their heroes on the Mountain ! That may be a good thing but government have never thought so ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Gizo said: Close the mountain road for 2 weeks and have done with it. The cost, effort isn’t really worth it. You do indeed have a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, asitis said: There is a hardcore of motorcyclists who simply wouldn't come if the IOM denied them the chance to ride like their heroes on the Mountain ! That may be a good thing but government have never thought so ! I think it is just a handful. Remember foot and mouth year when the races were off? Nobody came. Most come to see the spectacle. It’s the reckless few that ruin it for everyone else. I dealt with the only fatality that year, which was at the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 But they are here to see the races apparently. They don’t spend hard earned to do a bit on the mountain for which most part is under cones. Maybe if that’s what they want to do, by closing the mountain it will weedle out the unnecessary tourists. Or maybe just stop the TT all together. Would love to see the IOM govt P&L for the foot and mouth year, betya it was in the black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 hours ago, WTF said: the one way is more about the safety/protection of what used to be for the most part innocent travellers heading north. If safety protection was the priority then it would be one way anti-clockwise as that would stop the idiots trying to copy the racers. The IoM Govt does implement safety/protection but it is a trade off against not stopping bikers being able go over the mountain arse out with no limits. When the two clash the latter wins as it appears to have a higher priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: I think it is just a handful. Remember foot and mouth year when the races were off? Nobody came. Most come to see the spectacle. It’s the reckless few that ruin it for everyone else. I dealt with the only fatality that year, which was at the 11th. I remember and plenty came. I was an accountant back then and the firm I worked for did accounts for various hotels on the Douglas prom and many had brilliant years. This is part was due to the Govt compensation scheme. Yes campsites missed out but certain parts of the tourist sector did ok. Remember TT falls over one of the UK's peak holiday weeks and whilst the Island is not a popular location these days there are still visitors who want to come here for holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, asitis said: There is a hardcore of motorcyclists who simply wouldn't come if the IOM denied them the chance to ride like their heroes on the Mountain ! That may be a good thing but government have never thought so ! As I posted yesterday, the Govt keeps telling us that there loads of people who would love to come to the TT but they cannot find accommodation or get on the boat. If that is true the Govt can afford to piss off the hard core as there are plenty in the wings wanting to take their places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 IOM Govt doesn't decide anything and the T.T. is never ever discussed, either on the floor in Tynwald or in backroom committees. Never has been and never will be. I'm sure the police and the medical professionals would prefer greater safety. So who's really running the thing at the big decision making level ? Senior bods at the Treasury, DOI and Tourism departments ? Big shareholders in the private sector ? The motorcycle lobby ? Like most things in Manx politics - who really decides ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 37 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: IOM Govt doesn't decide anything and the T.T. is never ever discussed, either on the floor in Tynwald or in backroom committees. Never has been and never will be. I'm sure the police and the medical professionals would prefer greater safety. So who's really running the thing at the big decision making level ? Senior bods at the Treasury, DOI and Tourism departments ? Big shareholders in the private sector ? The motorcycle lobby ? Like most things in Manx politics - who really decides ? Good question. But the govt has to wake up to its obligations to protect life. I just think that there are a good number of politicians that don’t understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Lost Login said: I remember and plenty came. I was an accountant back then and the firm I worked for did accounts for various hotels on the Douglas prom and many had brilliant years. This is part was due to the Govt compensation scheme. Yes campsites missed out but certain parts of the tourist sector did ok. Remember TT falls over one of the UK's peak holiday weeks and whilst the Island is not a popular location these days there are still visitors who want to come here for holidays Well they weren’t on the roads much. It’s a shame we didn’t do more analysis on how it worked out because there were doubtless lessons to be learned. i can’t believe I just wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Lost Login said: If safety protection was the priority then it would be one way anti-clockwise as that would stop the idiots trying to copy the racers. The IoM Govt does implement safety/protection but it is a trade off against not stopping bikers being able go over the mountain arse out with no limits. When the two clash the latter wins as it appears to have a higher priority that is a good idea in theory that was talked about a few years back, but when you realise the main hospital is at the douglas end it becomes a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Good question. But the govt has to wake up to its obligations to protect life. I just think that there are a good number of politicians that don’t understand it. well they should ban smoking first and then move on to alcohol if protecting life is a priority ! i guess they would if it didn't bring in so much in taxes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Constantly closing the roads because of accidents is unacceptable. Make the whole route 35 MPH and enforce it with cameras and mobile speed traps. And no overtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Lost Login said: I remember and plenty came. I was an accountant back then and the firm I worked for did accounts for various hotels on the Douglas prom and many had brilliant years. This is part was due to the Govt compensation scheme. Yes campsites missed out but certain parts of the tourist sector did ok. Remember TT falls over one of the UK's peak holiday weeks and whilst the Island is not a popular location these days there are still visitors who want to come here for holidays pre-books before the cancellation ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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