the stinking enigma Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 They'll have to be pretty sturdy drones to withstand the windy conditions here. Be easier just to train a fleet of seagulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 hours ago, The Lurker said: No; they got a look in because the encumbent government of the day embraced globalisation and cheap coal/steal at the expense of whole communities that their class created in the first place without a thought or care for the economic consequences for those families who depended on those industries; inadvertently creating the benefit culture and disenfranchising most of the north of England. It's because the industries you are referring to were in public ownership, with all the attendant bad management and work practices that went with it. Management in steel mills took the least line of resistance by buying coal from overseas because it was a lot less hassle than trying to deal with the unions. The coal industry would have collapsed even 10 years ago because it's not environmentally acceptable. It had bugger all to do with globalisation at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: It's because the industries you are referring to were in public ownership, with all the attendant bad management and work practices that went with it. Management in steel mills took the least line of resistance by buying coal from overseas because it was a lot less hassle than trying to deal with the unions. The coal industry would have collapsed even 10 years ago because it's not environmentally acceptable. It had bugger all to do with globalisation at the time. It had everything to do with the miners bringing down Heath's government. Thatcher came to power and laid waste to the coal industry to make sure it would never happen again. Whole communities thrown out of work to wither on the vine. But they don't vote tory so fuck 'em.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Whither on the vine, my rebel ass. The ex-miners have never had it so good. They have done very well from white-finger to bad back compo claims, the money has been rolling in. Plenty of decent work for all. If they had all remained down t'pit they would have lungfuls of coal dust by now and probably 6ft under with it. Many realise this of course. Anyway, back to the post office - my Private Eye is late. There is little correlation between Isle of Man Post Office and the carpet-bagged Royal Mail plc. That union guy needs to realise this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, gettafa said: Whither on the vine, my rebel ass. The ex-miners have never had it so good. They have done very well from white-finger to bad back compo claims, the money has been rolling in. The UK coal mining industry had the highest accident rate of all UK industries. Which makes your post somewhat insulting. So "URGENT 1st Class Mail" hasn't made it yet. Poor show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craggy_steve Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: They'll have to be pretty sturdy drones to withstand the windy conditions here. Be easier just to train a fleet of seagulls. Most delivery bots are wheeled self-propelled boxes that roll along the pavement, not the flying type. Major inhibitor would be potholes ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Combine the sorting office and the driverless taxi rank. Your lift will arrive with your mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 47 minutes ago, P.K. said: The UK coal mining industry had the highest accident rate of all UK industries. Which makes your post somewhat insulting. So "URGENT 1st Class Mail" hasn't made it yet. Poor show... Insulting? How? Surely you must support the closing of the coal mining industry? As I do, albeit mostly with hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, gettafa said: Insulting? How? Surely you must support the closing of the coal mining industry? As I do, albeit mostly with hindsight. Why would you support the closing of an industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: It's because the industries you are referring to were in public ownership, with all the attendant bad management and work practices that went with it. Management in steel mills took the least line of resistance by buying coal from overseas because it was a lot less hassle than trying to deal with the unions. The coal industry would have collapsed even 10 years ago because it's not environmentally acceptable. It had bugger all to do with globalisation at the time. I agree regards the environmental aspects of coal and I’m in no way arguing that we should be reopening the mines; even if it were possible; but if the British government had taken a more protectionist stance and not bought in foreign coal then the industry and communities that depended on it could, perhaps, have had a managed decline rather than a catastrophic collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Why would you support the closing of an industry? Danger..... Health...... Economics..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, gettafa said: Danger..... Health...... Economics..... .....Sacrificed on the alter of political dogma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, P.K. said: .....Sacrificed on the alter of political dogma... Like the car, shipbuilding, steel, motorcycle, railway, aircraft and in fact almost every industry Britain has been involved in. Inept management, poor political support and greedy trade unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Max Power said: Like the car, shipbuilding, steel, motorcycle, railway, aircraft and in fact almost every industry Britain has been involved in. Inept management, poor political support and greedy trade unions. You can boil all that down to accountants running the industries. Driven of course by the financial desires of the stakeholder, be that the government or shareholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 hours ago, gettafa said: Anyway, back to the post office - my Private Eye is late. I got mine on Wednesday - clearly they kept your back to read on the picket line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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