Declan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I'm not sure all Liverpool fans are "all in" on anything. I could say I wanted Alonso because of his history as a player and with the club. Because he was being successful in Bundesleague and Europe and played a style of football that I like and would favour our existing squad. And we know Jose wouldn't be great fit. But does anyone really know enough about the the Sporting or Feynoord manager? They might be ideal, but I don't know enough. Dutch managers traditionally - Van Gaal, Koeman, the current United guy - haven't been Liverpool type managers. But I'm sure Cruyff would have worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 hours ago, manxman1980 said: Back to Liverpool... Arne Slot as the next Manager? Apparently Liverpool fans are "all in" on his appointment. Really? Liverpool are going to follow United and appointment someone from the Dutch league? Also seen Mourinho's name getting mentioned. Now that would be a laugh! could be worse, at least we haven't got Ten Hag... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 46 minutes ago, Passing Time said: could be worse, at least we haven't got Ten Hag... I don't think the poor performances at United are all down to Ten Hag. United have had Mourinho and Van Gaal both of whom have had great successes elsewhere and they had limited success. Unfortunately it seems as if the culture at the club is the issue and that the rot set in with the Glazers taking ownership. That got worse with the departure of Ferguson who was really performing the role of Director of Football as well as Manager and the club was set up to facilitate him in that process. It appears that the issue at United is the scattergun signings, the culture throughout the club and the players downing tools. Ten Hag at least confronted some of the issues in the squad but now that results and performances are going backwards he is losing that fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I agree the last few managers at United have been fall guys for structural problems at the club. The lack of a strategic vision, which the director of football should oversee. There's a lot of short-term decisions to appease the fans on social media. Sack manager bring in an interim, he does ok give him the job. Buy a big name player at the end of his career who's good at first then tails off. United's current team are weird. They can be resilient and have lots of talent but they can completely lose their heads for ten minutes. Sometimes in the same game. Also what kind of football are they trying to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Declan said: I'm not sure all Liverpool fans are "all in" on anything. I could say I wanted Alonso because of his history as a player and with the club. Because he was being successful in Bundesleague and Europe and played a style of football that I like and would favour our existing squad. And we know Jose wouldn't be great fit. But does anyone really know enough about the the Sporting or Feynoord manager? They might be ideal, but I don't know enough. Dutch managers traditionally - Van Gaal, Koeman, the current United guy - haven't been Liverpool type managers. But I'm sure Cruyff would have worked. I think Alonso would be mad to leave Leverkusen after 1 season, it has been a very successful season but it's his first season in management and he is still learning. Ultimately there was no pressure at Leverkusen whereas if he goes to Liverpool the pressure to win every week is massive. A couple of more seasons at Leverkusen continues his learning and it may well be the time for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 What a poor, poor performance from Liverpool so far. Everton winning everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majkul Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 When Klopp announced he's leaving, I braced myself, as I honestly thought L'pool would go on and win everything, players running through walls and all that for such a great manager. Unfortunately for them, for some reason or other, it looks like it's gone completely the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, majkul said: When Klopp announced he's leaving, I braced myself, as I honestly thought L'pool would go on and win everything, players running through walls and all that for such a great manager. Unfortunately for them, for some reason or other, it looks like it's gone completely the other way. Sadly not all the players felt the same. Appalling performances, they don’t deserve to win the league. Jurgen deserves so much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I think we've got to remember this was meant to be a transition year. There was a whole new midfield this season. Finished 5th last year. The BBC's poll of pundits had us finishing behind Utd this season. If we're honest we rode our luck in some games earlier in the season and maybe that lucks rebalanced itself. Team making progress, third and a cup's a fine season - not the great one we dreamed of, but most fans would be happy with a season like that. It seems churlish and entitled to treat it like a failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Having got over that debacle from last night, the one thing I was left wondering is why were Liverpool using "Right Angle Ray Wilkins" type tactics? What happened to the attacking football that we all have come to love. Mo Salah looked completely lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 That's been the root cause of recent poor performances. I think well organised teams have worked out how to deal with Trent stepping into a quarterback role. And being a work in progress they've not got a plan b. Some of the best football we've played this season has been when Gomes and Bradley played like Robbo and Trent in 2020 and got down the wings. But the last throw of the dice last night was to put Tsimkas and Gomes on, but too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Has anyone checked on Jamie Carragher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 17 hours ago, majkul said: When Klopp announced he's leaving, I braced myself, as I honestly thought L'pool would go on and win everything, players running through walls and all that for such a great manager. Unfortunately for them, for some reason or other, it looks like it's gone completely the other way. Totally predictable, and I did so on here. Same mistake Fergie made on his first "retirement". Players mentally down tools. I said back in the thread he should have kept his powder dry until much nearer the end of the season. I got some absolute nonsense from Scouse fans saying it's a different culture at Liverpool than it is at United, and the players are at one with the fans and the spirit of the club. Yeah, right. Looks like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 And you were proven wrong. They played their best football in the immediate aftermath of the announcement. The team isn't the finished article and come up short at the end of the season. Do you think "not being quite good enough" for lots of complex reasons is a less accurate explanation than "Liverpool would have won it if the manager hadn't said he was leaving" A cup (admittedly the wrong one) and champions league qualification is fine, about expectation and keeping the title challenge alive to mid April made it more fun, plenty of exciting comebacks. It's been a good season, maybe next season will be better. I've asked this before but it wasn't taken seriously, how does it look to fans of teams that spend all their time moving between league one and two to see Liverpool fans acting like this is a bad season? Isn't that entitled and arrogant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Declan said: And you were proven wrong. They played their best football in the immediate aftermath of the announcement. The team isn't the finished article and come up short at the end of the season. Do you think "not being quite good enough" for lots of complex reasons is a less accurate explanation than "Liverpool would have won it if the manager hadn't said he was leaving" A cup (admittedly the wrong one) and champions league qualification is fine, about expectation and keeping the title challenge alive to mid April made it more fun, plenty of exciting comebacks. It's been a good season, maybe next season will be better. I've asked this before but it wasn't taken seriously, how does it look to fans of teams that spend all their time moving between league one and two to see Liverpool fans acting like this is a bad season? Isn't that entitled and arrogant? You're dissembling now. I said the wheels would come off and they have. OK, so they are a little dense, and it took the news some time to penetrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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