TheTeapot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/all-island-speed-limit-to-be-considered/ Howard is on the case. Wonder if they'll bother with the public consultation this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/all-island-speed-limit-to-be-considered/ Howard is on the case. Wonder if they'll bother with the public consultation this time? Any sane Government would just do it. However... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 "The concept was previously rejected after more than half of those responding to a public consultation were against such restrictions" Try again but this time don't wait until TT fortnight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Christ almighty I can't believe this "let the people decide" approach on such an absolute no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 We got it defeated last time in 2006, when the consultation was totally loaded in favor of it. Why unearth it again now? Do you want to be just another county of England with speed cameras everywhere? Because without enforcement speed limits are useless. It would also kill the TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelwd Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I think before we start looking at this, we need to enforce the limits we have. 40mph seems the norm on Johnny Watersons lane, parts of the prom (before it was dug up), and many other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Once again I repeat, we need logical reasons for a particular limit, its location and appropriate level of speed.......then enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 5:23 PM, Derek Flint said: It doesn’t have to. I hired a Peugeot 3008 recently. It “read” the speed limit signs, so where there was a temporary one, such as a 50 in roadworks on the motorway, it flagged it and ‘Pinged’ if I exceeded it. It’s not a massive leap to programme a restrictor into the software of the vehicle to cap forward speed at that limit, with an “emergency override” built in. I've already got one of those on all of my bikes and the cars. It's an optical system that's linked to the main computer which processes the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Amadeus said: We got it defeated last time in 2006, when the consultation was totally loaded in favor of it. Why unearth it again now? Do you want to be just another county of England with speed cameras everywhere? Because without enforcement speed limits are useless. It would also kill the TT. This isn’t a matter for consultation. It’s a matter for good governance, and the state meeting its assertions on its road safety strategy, along with its art.2 obligations. As is the way, by putting in a National Road Safety Strategy based on vision zero, a clause about persisting with derestricted roads, the IOMG has contradicted itself and made itself look rather foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 13 hours ago, doc.fixit said: Once again I repeat, we need logical reasons for a particular limit, its location and appropriate level of speed.......then enforce it. How about the fact that all of our unrestricted roads are single carriageways with adjoining roads which are not slip roads (some of which are hidden) and which are not as straight as a die like motorways yet motorways most of which have 3 or 4 lanes travelling in the same direction are restricted to 70mph? I'd call that a no brainer for restriction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Duck of Atholl said: How about the fact that all of our unrestricted roads are single carriageways with adjoining roads which are not slip roads (some of which are hidden) and which are not as straight as a die like motorways yet motorways most of which have 3 or 4 lanes travelling in the same direction are restricted to 70mph? I'd call that a no brainer for restriction Spot on - and underpins a speed limit should be a result of a risk assessment. Crunch the data, then weigh up all the stuff you’ve mentioned above, and say, “yep, xx mph seems about right for this stretch” This is where govt is leaving itself wide open to a legal challenge for civil damages at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 The bar should be lowered for careless driving and the fines increased. The test tightened up and the age to start driving raised. And a compulsory basic retest for all every 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 hours ago, The Duck of Atholl said: How about the fact that all of our unrestricted roads are single carriageways with adjoining roads which are not slip roads (some of which are hidden) and which are not as straight as a die like motorways yet motorways most of which have 3 or 4 lanes travelling in the same direction are restricted to 70mph? I'd call that a no brainer for restriction Exactly what I was trying to say. If you notice, I've been saying it for years! Review all roads and LOGICALLY reappraise where and what the speed limit should be.Then, DO IT NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Anyway, this is a small island with narrow roads and lots of vehicles, for goodness sake, Politicians do your stuff, read the above, no need to spend a lot of cash and just DO IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Derek Flint said: This is where govt is leaving itself wide open to a legal challenge for civil damages at some point. Yep,those Ferrari repairs aren't cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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