Happier diner Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, english zloty said: i think that's a little patronising to be honest. i fully understand what net present value is. And also i can read which is why the CAPEX (capital expenditure) in 2020-21 was stated as being £1.4billion. i have merely rounded up to 2023 prices and added a bit on based on previous performance of staying within budgets. Not meant to be patronising. Not meaning to question your knowledge. However if you post things that are incorrect (like an interconnector is going to cost 'nearer £2Billion). Then perhaps you shouldn't be too surprised that you get what you think is a patronising reply. See your post below 5 hours ago, english zloty said: https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/climate-change-plan-2022-2027/supporting_documents/Isle of Man Future Energy Scenarios Executive Summary.pdf thank you - I think it's nearer £2Billion That was in reply my post saying it was about £100M. Which turns out to be correct. You see my point? Edited February 14, 2023 by Happier diner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 20 hours ago, CallMeCurious said: Here's a graphic. Appreciate the correction of the figures which as already said a minuscule . Don't think Russia China or India will be at all interested in making a contribution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: Appreciate the correction of the figures which as already said a minuscule . Don't think Russia China or India will be at all interested in making a contribution Exactly. Facts can't be allowed to get in the way of delusional self-flagellation and virtue signalling by the technically illiterate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Happier diner said: Not meant to be patronising. Not meaning to question your knowledge. However if you post things that are incorrect (like an interconnector is going to cost 'nearer £2Billion). Then perhaps you shouldn't be too surprised that you get what you think is a patronising reply. See your post below That was in reply my post saying it was about £100M. Which turns out to be correct. You see my point? That table is new to me. Thank you 😀 the report I linked to clearly states £1.4-1.8 depending on scenario. Either way a shit load of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 There is a feature on the NPM this morning masquerading as news, but more like an advertorial for seminars, about collaboration with the Northern Powerhouse Partnership. Organised by the CoC, and its guest speakers are someone from the Northern Powerhouse and CM Cannan. Whilst IOMG and others are literally throwing the kitchen sink ………….. at times desperately, in an attempt to encourage economic growth, I doubt whether the island can serious sustain population growth. The event is is being sponsored by the Peel Group. Are the Peel Group involved in the Manx Development Corporation, or just iinvolved with the cannabis farm campus, and solar farm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) I think but could be proven wrong that MDC and Northern Powerhouse shared the stage at the Island Conference. I remember because it all looked a little too cosy. Eta. Confirmed here https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/government-conference-provides-new-platform-for-public-engagement-573992https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/government-conference-provides-new-platform-for-public-engagement-573992 Edited February 15, 2023 by english zloty Link confirms supposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Not too much of a leap to suggest MDC private funding is actually Peel. That might also explain why MDC aren’t too concerned about budgets. especially if DFE are in on the wheeze. No need to worry the little people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, english zloty said: Not too much of a leap to suggest MDC private funding is actually Peel. That might also explain why MDC aren’t too concerned about budgets. especially if DFE are in on the wheeze. No need to worry the little people Does it matter as long as someone is a partner in JV, that’s how they wirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Banker said: Does it matter as long as someone is a partner in JV, that’s how they wirk Depends if you want a Government of integrity, openness and transparency, or one of dodgy deals made in backrooms on a strictly need to know basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, english zloty said: Depends if you want a Government of integrity, openness and transparency, or one of dodgy deals made in backrooms on a strictly need to know basis I think a lot of us know what sort of Government we have and have had for many years!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 It's partly the fault of a passive and disinterested electorate who put them into government. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 hours ago, quilp said: It's partly the fault of a passive and disinterested electorate who put them into government. Or of course the circular argument about what the interested part of the electorate have to choose from. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, asitis said: Or of course the circular argument about what the interested part of the electorate have to choose from. Remember, only people already on over £100K and who would have to take a substantial pay cut are "decent" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Remember, only people already on over £100K and who would have to take a substantial pay cut are "decent" Not sure I meant that, money certainly doesn't equal decency, if anywhere, here proves that ! There are people who wake up in the morning, take a look at themselves in the mirror and see a politician staring back, despite all evidence to the contrary. How you get people who are suited to national / international politics to stand, is a matter for debate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, asitis said: Not sure I meant that, money certainly doesn't equal decency, if anywhere, here proves that ! It wasn't you who said it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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