Government has overpaid more than £190,000 in public sector pensions

[x-in-man]

18 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Or benefit fraud as it is known in the rest of the population.

But a pension isn't s benefit.

 

[Kevlar]

1 hour ago, x-in-man said:

But a pension isn't s benefit.

 

It is if you haven’t paid for any of it. Like many of them.

[x-in-man]

1 hour ago, Kevlar said:

It is if you haven’t paid for any of it. Like many of them.

Define many. Give a figure.

[Non-Believer]

5 minutes ago, x-in-man said:

Define many. Give a figure.

The legacy pension gap is @ £40M pa.

It probably runs into many hundreds; 700? 800?

[WTF]

10 hours ago, John Wright said:

 

No, they wrote a letter. Treasury do the same. Often the earliest they know of death is when the bank account into which the pension is paid is closed. Writing a letter and receiving repayment will normally be weeks or months apart. 

a death is notified to a government entity fairly quickly , the fact that treasury don't get informed by another department of that fact is maybe what needs addressing 

[Albert Tatlock]

1 minute ago, WTF said:

a death is notified to a government entity fairly quickly , the fact that treasury don't get informed by another department of that fact is maybe what needs addressing 

Probably an accident...

 

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, x-in-man said:

Define many. Give a figure.

None of them have paid for all of it.

[A fool and his money.....]

4 hours ago, x-in-man said:

But a pension isn't s benefit.

 

It amounts to the same thing. 

[John Wright]

20 minutes ago, WTF said:

a death is notified to a government entity fairly quickly , the fact that treasury don't get informed by another department of that fact is maybe what needs addressing 

There may be several people on government pension pay roll with the same name. There’s almost bound to be more than one person with the same name on island. Without ID cards and numbers being issued, and required to register a death, how would your solution work, in practice? Registration of deaths has no idea if there’s a pension in payment. 

[Exocet]

4 minutes ago, John Wright said:

There may be several people on government pension pay roll with the same name. There’s almost bound to be more than one person with the same name on island. Without ID cards and numbers being issued, and required to register a death, how would your solution work, in practice? Registration of deaths has no idea if there’s a pension in payment. 

The insurance companies seem to manage though. 

[John Wright]

4 minutes ago, Exocet said:

The insurance companies seem to manage though. 

No, they don’t. They’re notified. By next of kin, executors, or banks. Not by GRO or by trawling BD&M’s

[wrighty]

9 hours ago, piebaps said:

According to Gov figures £141m will be paid in pensions in 24-25 (FOI 3723609)

The overpayments reported are 0.13%

80% relate to payments made after the public servant has died but before the paying authority knew.

The 190k is over 5 years, and 2/3 of it was recovered, so the percentage is more like 0.009%. This is a tiny discrepancy, almost certainly due to people dying and being paid for a month or two afterwards. I guess most will have been abroad - further than UK. 
 

This level of accounting accuracy should be commended shouldn't it?

[x-in-man]

38 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

None of them have paid for all of it.

That’s bollocks and you know it.

[Exocet]

20 minutes ago, John Wright said:

No, they don’t. They’re notified. By next of kin, executors, or banks. Not by GRO or by trawling BD&M’s

No they have data feeds and reporting which act as trigger events. 

[A fool and his money.....]

7 minutes ago, x-in-man said:

That’s bollocks and you know it.

No it's not. Employer contributions in the public sector are still way above what most people could dream of. A public sector pension is a benefit, simple as.