La_Dolce_Vita Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 More cops in the square mile right now than at the last donut convention - could be fun... I hope so... I hope the activists get the chance to cause some real mayhem. What do you mean by that? I've had my house vandalized a few times recently, and we've had similar problems at work - clearing it up takes a lot of time and effort. If this mayhem you are hoping for ends up costing hard working people hard cash - then personally it pisses me off. Yobs who think they can use violence and destruction to make their unthought out points deserve all they can get. Kicking in shop window fronts, throwing stones at coppers or smashing up the Bank of England building won't in any way solve the problems facing the economy and will just make it more expensive to clear up the mess. I meant in any way trying to cause problems for the G20 summit and in making efforts to disrupt it. Not that they will actually have a great effect at causing disruption in this respect, the most important thing is the protest. Though I have little concern if one of the smaller groups happens to smash a window of a corporate branch. I don't think it achieves much in itself, but I do not condemn it. And as for throwing stones as policemen, well in demonstrations such as this it usually comes as a result of the police using force against protesters. Again, it doesn't achieve anything except meting retribution against the pigs when they themselves use violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimcalagon Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Not really given the realities. Maybe like you, and certainly like many, I am just as much at the bidding of my employer. I can't just not turn up at work when I have no holiday, I would get fired. So you get fired - so what? Find a squat and live with some of your anarchist would-be-buddies. Or sit on your arse, in your nice little bourgeois job, talking the big talk about 'hoping the activists can cause some real mayhem' . I'll tell you matey - I've been on proper demos in the 80s with proper anarchists who didn't care about jobs, houses etc. who had something concrete to protest about rather than just 'hey stop mucking up the world!'. I make no bones about the fact that I've opted for a quiet life with a decent job, decent money but at least I don't try and tag along on the coattails of others saying 'when the revolution comes...' If you haven't got the courage of your convictions and are frightened to pull a sickie to support 'the cause' then expect to get very short shrift when you start pontificating on here about whatever it is you've read in this month's edition of 'Class War'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 jim why do you think it took labour so long to ban fox hunting ..?? they were sick at having to do it. see when there was foxhunting all the great unwashed went out into the countryside at the weekends to camp out and smoke alittle pot and if time permitted do a little demonstrating. i heard tony blair said to someone once .. we have em all bloody week yeah .. so you can have them at weekends when we are off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimcalagon Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 jim why do you think it took labour so long to ban fox hunting ..?? they were sick at having to do it. see when there was foxhunting all the great unwashed went out into the countryside at the weekends to camp out and smoke alittle pot and if time permitted do a little demonstrating. i heard tony blair said to someone once .. we have em all bloody week yeah .. so you can have them at weekends when we are off.. I've re-read that about four times and it still makes no sense. If there's one thing I hate more than middle-class socialists who talk about the 'working class' from the comfort of their 30s semis in surrey, it's toffee-nosed pims-swigging hooray henrys in red coats out for blood, supported by their thuggish yokel cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Did anyone else think using anti-terror laws to arrest protesters was a bit shit? Ah but that's what they're really for you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimcalagon Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Again, it doesn't achieve anything except meting retribution against the pigs when they themselves use violence. Ha! I haven't heard that in years! You are Rik from the Young Ones and i claim my five pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringwraith Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 If there's one thing I hate more than middle-class socialists who talk about the 'working class' from the comfort of their 30s semis in surrey, it's toffee-nosed pims-swigging hooray henrys in red coats out for blood, supported by their thuggish yokel cronies. I hate people who claim to have been on ‘proper demo’s’ with ‘proper anarchists’ in an attempt to bully a student, and then they admit that they themselves have sold out and live in a tax haven – they’re far worse than those living in semis in Surrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Only got stopped twice for taking pics yet - both times by brain dead security idiots. Even the cops seem friendly... The cops are friendly because the City lot rarely get anything to do. After all, they've only got a square mile to play in. They're the ones with the funny helmets, if you know what I mean... If any "security idiot" tries to tell you to do anything first off ask for id. Because only the boys in blue can order you about and then only for your own safety. "Security" goons have no powers or jurisdiction to do anything. If they try call for a real copper. Been there, done that, got them cautioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimcalagon Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I hate people who claim to have been on ‘proper demo’s’ with ‘proper anarchists’ in an attempt to bully a student, and then they admit that they themselves have sold out and live in a tax haven – they’re far worse than those living in semis in Surrey. That is an entirely fair comment - except I'm not the one saying 'destroy the state' and 'cause some mayhem' but staying at home because they can't get the day off work. At least I actually did go on the demos at one point (and even took days off work to do so!) even if I'm a fat old sold-out capitalist wage slave now (which I am). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 We missed out here, should have sent over a battalion of Peel Orcs disguised as the 'Save the Shrew Urban Peoples Action Collective.' Then when the protests are peaking, General Amadeus ( covert mode ) gives the signal and they storm the Bank of England and liberate all that KSF dosh they knicked. Thus solving the great DCS drag on and striking fear into the heart of the dark forces across. ETA Am gets the exclusive pics as well. Winner all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 If you haven't got the courage of your convictions and are frightened to pull a sickie to support 'the cause' then expect to get very short shrift when you start pontificating on here about whatever it is you've read in this month's edition of 'Class War'. Don't be silly. It isn't a case of 'so what', find a squat etc. I got into far left-wing 'thinking' only about a year ago. My politics are anarchist (or possibly communist) but I am not yet an activist, so probably not really an anarchist. In any case, at THIS point in my life I am not yet prepared to opt for an utterly different way of life and failing my uni course which would result by losing my job for the sake of protesting at this particular G20 summit, one of many protests. I could pull a sickie, but like I said this would certainly cost me my job. On balance it would be foolish, regardless of their convictions to put A protest above one's financial security. If I was an 18 year old student or was someone with a long familiarity with activism then I think other choices could be made. I don't tag along on anyone's coattails, certainly not anarchist one's as I have never, ever said anything about "when the revolution comes". In all it seems that the logic of your point of view is that I cannot offer libertarian perspectives nor show support of anarchists because I am not yet an activist. I disagree. ..........Anyway. What I have heard which is a bit worrying is that there may be a group or groups who will be targeting bankers on the day. I don't quite know exactly what that will entail but it sounds sinister and very wrong. I heard some offices in London are closing early to avoid it. But these are rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimcalagon Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 LDV - if you don't take your political viewpoint seriously enough to do something about it, don't be surprised if people here get the hump when you come out with one of your frequent lectures on capitalism. "Do what I say, not what I do" That's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Only got stopped twice for taking pics yet - both times by brain dead security idiots. Even the cops seem friendly... The cops are friendly because the City lot rarely get anything to do. After all, they've only got a square mile to play in. They're the ones with the funny helmets, if you know what I mean... If any "security idiot" tries to tell you to do anything first off ask for id. Because only the boys in blue can order you about and then only for your own safety. "Security" goons have no powers or jurisdiction to do anything. If they try call for a real copper. Been there, done that, got them cautioned. I know - was actually waiting for one to kick off. First one was at Blackfriars bridge, some office building - he asked me why I was taking pictures and wanted to see ID. A swift lecture in photography rights followed Wondering if it's worth going to Stansted for Obama - arrives 7.45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 governments now have us by the balls and we just meekly went/are going on our way to our fate... We vote them in or so people tell me.... LDV, it was on the news yesterday evening, Brighton or Dorset or somewhere like that, the dreadful terrorists had fireworks, sounds like Guy Fawkes, perhaps he was right after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Sitting in regents park, waiting for Obama to fly in with his helicopter - hope he hurries up, getting dark... All pretty relaxed here, though, considering who's coming. Just got stopped and searched by armed police - three big coppers in a beemer (check twitter stream for picture) - section 44 terrorism act and all that. Very polite, though, and clued up on photo laws - pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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