Moghrey Mie Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I started a thread on a similar theme a few weeks ago. This is my first post since then because I have been thinking about it. In particular, I have been trying to figure out if I am racist myself. My answer........... I was racist. I was the worst sort of racist. I was the guy who claimed to be mulicultural and non racist. But I was.... becaus I started a thread on a similar theme a few weeks ago. This is my first post since then because I have been thinking about it. In particular, I have been trying to figure out if I am racist myself. My answer........... I was racist. I was the worst sort of racist. I was the guy who claimed to be mulicultural and non racist. But I was.... because I always added the "but". I dont do that now. And I really dont feel the need to add the "but". The "but" has gone from my life. And I feel much happier for it e I always added the "but". I dont do that now. And I really dont feel the need to add the "but". The "but" has gone from my life. And I feel much happier for it I think there is a strong tendency in human beings to discriminate against people who are different in any way from themselves. We have to be constantly on our guard against it in ourselves. That technique of not using 'but' is helpful. If somebody says, 'It's not that I'm racist but...........' then they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It is complex. Its no wonder the Kids of today dont know what to think. Personally, I have always felt the BBC behaved in a racist manner. Not a good start for the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I think it is important to differentiate between racism and the dislike of unacceptable behaviour - I hope that I am not racist however (n.b I avoided using 'but') it is not actually me who can make that judgement. It has to be made by other people I inter-act with. I do however find it objectionable that a young girl should be shot by the Taliban for wanting to go to school, that a young blogger should be killed in Evin Prison this week, that the Japanese Government treats Koreans whose families have lived in Japan for many generations as aliens, that India has a caste system, that some people judge others by their accents etc...The older I get and the more I have lived in different countries the more I notice that prejudice seems to be a common human trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 If somebody says, 'It's not that I'm racist but...........' then they are. Not always, for example:- I'm not racist but that guy over there in the KKK outfit is.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prism10 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Or do we take racist in its popularly hijacked meaning of the last fifty years, where any comment suggesting that drastically changing the ethnic make up of a country or an entire continent in the course of a few generations might not be the most prudent idea ever renders one liable to comparison with the Third Reich. This is definitely (one of) the elephants in the room of this century. That will do for me. I only had to read the comments in the last few posts to see what angle some of the posters are coming from. Personally I take my definition of racism from the Equality Act 2010, then again I live in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 If somebody says, 'It's not that I'm racist but...........' then they are. Not always, for example:- I'm not racist but that guy over there in the KKK outfit is.......................... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I do however find it objectionable that a young girl should be shot by the Taliban for wanting to go to school, that a young blogger should be killed in Evin Prison this week, that the Japanese Government treats Koreans whose families have lived in Japan for many generations as aliens, that India has a caste system, that some people judge others by their accents etc...The older I get and the more I have lived in different countries the more I notice that prejudice seems to be a common human trait. Bit of an aside, but you have a very odd sense of moral relativism that has cropped up a number of times on the forums. It's this idea that either you think we have no legitimate claim to be able to judge what people of other cultures do or that if we do judge them it is a unfortunate thing. I don't know why you think so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I do however find it objectionable that a young girl should be shot by the Taliban for wanting to go to school, that a young blogger should be killed in Evin Prison this week, that the Japanese Government treats Koreans whose families have lived in Japan for many generations as aliens, that India has a caste system, that some people judge others by their accents etc...The older I get and the more I have lived in different countries the more I notice that prejudice seems to be a common human trait. Bit of an aside, but you have a very odd sense of moral relativism that has cropped up a number of times on the forums. It's this idea that either you think we have no legitimate claim to be able to judge what people of other cultures do or that if we do judge them it is a unfortunate thing. I don't know why you think so much. LDV you do have a strange way of reading things. Where do I say it is unfortunate to judge what people of other cultures do? I see a big difference between judging someone on their ethnicity and on their behaviour. Maybe you don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It is complex. Its no wonder the Kids of today dont know what to think. Personally, I have always felt the BBC behaved in a racist manner. Not a good start for the kids. The BBC are certainly an anti-semitic propaganda organisation, which is why I don't pay a TV licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It is complex. Its no wonder the Kids of today dont know what to think. Personally, I have always felt the BBC behaved in a racist manner. Not a good start for the kids. The BBC are certainly an anti-semitic propaganda organisation, which is why I don't pay a TV licence. Certainly? I don't think so. possibly, well you could argue that, I would wholeheartedly disagree with you, but 'certainly', no sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It is complex. Its no wonder the Kids of today dont know what to think. Personally, I have always felt the BBC behaved in a racist manner. Not a good start for the kids. The BBC are certainly an anti-semitic propaganda organisation, which is why I don't pay a TV licence. Certainly? I don't think so. possibly, well you could argue that, I would wholeheartedly disagree with you, but 'certainly', no sir If not anti-semitic, then definitely biased and derogatory against Israel. Coverage of Israels' faults is one thing, but there must be something else motivating their clear bias other than the facts on the ground. What else, other than it being a Jewish state, makes Israel stand out from the crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 A common form of modern racialism is to refer to 'Foreigners', meaning Polish and other East Europeans, whilst not including English, Irish and Scots etc in that definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 A common form of modern racialism is to refer to 'Foreigners', meaning Polish and other East Europeans, whilst not including English, Irish and Scots etc in that definition. Ahem. Well they are not British like we English, Scots, Irish, Welsh and Manx are they matey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 It is complex. Its no wonder the Kids of today dont know what to think. Personally, I have always felt the BBC behaved in a racist manner. Not a good start for the kids. The BBC are certainly an anti-semitic propaganda organisation, which is why I don't pay a TV licence. Certainly? I don't think so. possibly, well you could argue that, I would wholeheartedly disagree with you, but 'certainly', no sir If not anti-semitic, then definitely biased and derogatory against Israel. Coverage of Israels' faults is one thing, but there must be something else motivating their clear bias other than the facts on the ground. What else, other than it being a Jewish state, makes Israel stand out from the crowd? Its not that Israel stands out from the crowd for being a Jewish state; its that the Palestinians stand out from the crowd because they have no state at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jefferson Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Its not that Israel stands out from the crowd for being a Jewish state; its that the Palestinians stand out from the crowd because they have no state at all. They also stand out as being a completely invented people. Of course they exist, but they're Arabs, not "Palestinians". The Philistines got wiped out several thousand years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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