The Border Terrier Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 You "vehemently dislike" the apparent paradox of this person doing something that she believes is unsafe? Seems like a somewhat abstract position to take. Nothing personal ref: Ms Bettridge, I'd dislike anybody that set sail on a boat that they knew wasn't safe. My taxes would have to fund the helicopter/lifeboat sent out to rescue those needing help post sinking. TBT. Perhaps you meant enigma rather than anathema? I think perhaps you may be confusing me with Dr Alan Turing OBE, FRS (1912-54). An easy mistake, he's from Wilmslow and myself Glen Wyllin. TBT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeAsMilk Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Perhaps you meant enigma rather than anathema? Or possibly enema? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think perhaps you may be confusing me with Dr Alan Turing OBE, FRS (1912-54). An easy mistake... Confusing one of the founding fathers of computer science and a true polymath with a ManxForums creative writer who lets his dog pee on shop signs. Don't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Seeker Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Steam Packet Chairman response (2) MT TV. Chairman Robert Quayle talks about the future of fast craft on the Irish Sea services, the user agreement negotiations and what has been learnt from the recent problems with the Manannan. http://www.manx.net/tv/mt-tv/watch/66446/steam-packet-chairman-response-2-?utm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Of course, you know what is is don't you? Lobster pots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Terrier Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think perhaps you may be confusing me with Dr Alan Turing OBE, FRS (1912-54). An easy mistake... Confusing one of the founding fathers of computer science and a true polymath with a ManxForums creative writer who lets his dog pee on shop signs. Don't think so. >Confusing one of the founding fathers of computer science... But as Dr Turing was so well established with Enigma, you may forgive my incorrect conclusion. >Perhaps you meant enigma rather than anathema? In the words of Sir Neville Marriner when his charges were apt to interpret his arrangement incorrectly, "If you'd be so kind as to play the notes in the order in which they're written. I know exactly what I mean here, I should do, as I wrote it!" >...who lets his dog pee on shop signs. Both the terriers have annointed that sign. Jeez, it must stink to high heaven when its put away in the shop for the night. I wonder if anybody disinfects it, it being a food store and all? But seriously, let it go BobbieB', being part of 'The Pavement Police' the terriers will object to anything that could adversely influence safe passage of partially sighted pedestrians. I mean, a sandwich board slap bang in the middle of the pavement...has accident written all over it (no pun intended). TBT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Perhaps you would also like to compare yourself to JFK so that I can post the YouTube Lloyd Bentsen put-down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Terrier Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Perhaps you would also like to compare yourself to JFK so that I can post the YouTube Lloyd Bentsen put-down? Let it go... TBT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Or maybe you see yourself more like Napoleon? I understand there's a syndrome named after him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EORH Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 So the Steam Packet want their monopoly protected by this User Agreement before they will invest in new/used ships, at the same time our Government won't let Ellan Vannin Line operate from Douglas, who, if allowed, will buy a ship to operate without any User Agreement. Something stinks here, just who are the investors in the Steam Packet?, doe's our Government or any of it's members have a pecuniary interest here, then surely they can't stop another shipping line from operating from any port in the Isle of Man, it's the people who should decide. Call a referendum on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Call a referendum on it. "The people" know bugger all about business, so what good would that do? They'd vote for another ManxLine situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 So the Steam Packet want their monopoly protected by this User Agreement before they will invest in new/used ships, That doesn't seem unreasonable to me if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_Sandwich Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Let it lapse; they milk it for the shareholders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Let it lapse; they milk it for the shareholders. OK if it lapses, what do you envisage will happen then with regard to service, fares etc. A huge mistake last time that IoM Govt made was that they did not include a clause which basically prohibited the agreement and vessels being used as guantees for loans without the govt express approval. Maybe some sort of net asset provision or similar. Basically something to stop the user agreement to be used as a way of getting borrowings so that cash can be striped out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee_dub Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 So the Steam Packet want their monopoly protected by this User Agreement before they will invest in new/used ships, at the same time our Government won't let Ellan Vannin Line operate from Douglas, who, if allowed, will buy a ship to operate without any User Agreement. Something stinks here, just who are the investors in the Steam Packet?, doe's our Government or any of it's members have a pecuniary interest here, then surely they can't stop another shipping line from operating from any port in the Isle of Man, it's the people who should decide. Call a referendum on it. Are you for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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