HeliX Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 29 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: The Israeli Government needs to listen to tge Israeli people, and the families of those taken as hostages. They also need to get rid of Netanyahu and the utterly awful dickhead Ben-Gvir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 hours ago, HeliX said: Why are they hitting so many children then? Because they're kept in the line of fire by Hamas supporting parents...? In every conflict, but especially in an urban insurgency, the innocents always suffer disproportionately. Unfortunately It's in the nature of the beast. Plus, of course, Hamas embed themselves as deeply as they possibly can because, as we have seen, they just don't care... Surely you already know this...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, P.K. said: Because they're kept in the line of fire by Hamas supporting parents...? And there will be many who didn't support Hamas but were unable to leave Gaza or were held there against their will by Hamas. 1 hour ago, P.K. said: In every conflict, but especially in an urban insurgency, the innocents always suffer disproportionately. Unfortunately It's in the nature of the beast. Plus, of course, Hamas embed themselves as deeply as they possibly can because, as we have seen, they just don't care... Surely you already know this...? Which is surely why measures should be taken to minimise the risk to innocent civilians? Killing innocent people is the perfect propaganda for terrorist groups to use as recruitment material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: And there will be many who didn't support Hamas but were unable to leave Gaza or were held there against their will by Hamas. Which is surely why measures should be taken to minimise the risk to innocent civilians? Killing innocent people is the perfect propaganda for terrorist groups to use as recruitment material. Yes, Hamas really just don't care. Commanders on the ground have to balance the risk between collateral damage and losing more of their own people. As they have been tasked with destroying Hamas that has to be their priority. As we have seen dropping leaflets to clear the line of fire just doesn't work with some folks. On their own heads be it as the alternative will be just more of the same until Hamas are finished with. I see a US $26bn aid package to Israel is in the offing. That might make even Netanyahu take notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 13 hours ago, HeliX said: Why are they hitting so many children then? Because the jihadists use kids as soldiers and martyrs. It's a deliberate tactic. They indoctrinate them from a young age. They can then use them for decoys and booby-traps; as human bombs and shields; give them weapons training; send them in to clear minefields; etc. They'll kick a football under Israeli tanks then send a booby-trapped child to go and get the ball. They'll load a pram with high explosive, stick a baby in it, then send a young 'mother' out on to the street. In any conflict with jihadists the body count of children will always be disproportionately higher. It also plays on the liberal values of the soft west and wins the propaganda war. Don't you know all this stuff ? They're well known tactics. You seem stuck in your own truth loop... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I think “truth loop” is stretching it a bit… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Terrorist babies man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Shake me up Judy said: Because the jihadists use kids as soldiers and martyrs. It's a deliberate tactic. They indoctrinate them from a young age. They can then use them for decoys and booby-traps; as human bombs and shields; give them weapons training; send them in to clear minefields; etc. They'll kick a football under Israeli tanks then send a booby-trapped child to go and get the ball. They'll load a pram with high explosive, stick a baby in it, then send a young 'mother' out on to the street. In any conflict with jihadists the body count of children will always be disproportionately higher. It also plays on the liberal values of the soft west and wins the propaganda war. Don't you know all this stuff ? They're well known tactics. You seem stuck in your own truth loop... Having a doctrine that deliberately waits until a suspected Hamas member gets home and then bombs him and anyone in his house is now the suspected (not confirmed) Hamas member using kids as martyrs is it? The reason the child casualties are so high is that Israel doesn't give a fuck whether it kills kids. They've dropped 30,000 bombs on Gaza in 6 months. A tiny strip of land. 8 times what the US dropped on Iraq in 6 years of war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-18/ty-article-magazine/from-gaza-to-iran-the-netanyahu-government-is-endangering-israels-survival/0000018e-f25f-daad-a3de-fe7ff5790000?gift=9fae2d8be3dc4af0a19b34cbb9d70d76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeteroErectus Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Guys we get it. We did all along. Hamas are terrorists. You've been banging out the same song out for the last 7 months. They represent Gaza, they were elected by the people based on one issue and haven't had a vote since. Again, Gaza/Palestine isn't a recognised state as defined by international law. Part of statehood requires we adhere to rules, ethics and principles that raise us above the barbarians. Israel IS NOT DOING THAT. Let's use instagrams geo location feature to see what the young people of Israel are doing in a WARZONE on a Saturday morning.... Edited April 20 by HeteroErectus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeteroErectus Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 At the beach, in a "warzone". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeteroErectus Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Eating brunch in a restaurant... in a "warzone". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeteroErectus Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Yoga classes... in a "warzone". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeteroErectus Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (My personal favourite..) Beach volleyball.... in a "warzone". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Not sure what point you're trying to make with these images here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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