pongo Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, ballaughbiker said: Nah, never mind waiting. We can manipulate this tragedy against our political opponents now. You're kind of doing that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: . However Corbyn did say it all in a calm reasonable manner. He is SO nice...... I was beginning to think he could actually be a different type of leader but he's just as cynically opportunist as the rest. He may speak softly and come over as the personification of sweet reason, but he has some very unsavoury hard left characters manning Momentum who are not above a bit of intimidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I am told by Inside Housing a trade journal I get on line that the safeguards or parts of the structure designed to stop fire spreading from floor to floor were removed during refurbishment and app0arently not yet replaced..I give a link but not sure what it will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Holy cow! It looks like that link lets you into my email??? Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Quote You're kind of doing that too. Wrong, I was really warming to him despite his past and his awful shadow cabinet. His grinning mask has slipped today and I am disappointed. How that makes me "kind of doing that too" is an enigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 The Scots don't trust Corbyn...They are suspicious of a man who looks old but who still has teeth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 28 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: The Scots don't trust Corbyn...They are suspicious of a man who looks old but who still has teeth! And is in a gang of teenagers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Corbyn takes the hard left line on everything. He doesn't have any other position or perspective and is always weak or silent on anything that doesn't fit that analysis. That's why he had nothing to say on Brexit and consequently the Labour Party have been vague and non-committal during and after the referendum, and even through the general election. I don't think some people realise just what an ideologue he is and always has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: Corbyn takes the hard left line on everything. He doesn't have any other position or perspective and is always weak or silent on anything that doesn't fit that analysis. That's why he had nothing to say on Brexit and consequently the Labour Party have been vague and non-committal during and after the referendum, and even through the general election. I don't think some people realise just what an ideologue he is and always has been. Pretty much all parties, barring UKIP, were non-committal on Brexit. It was a free voting issue with differing views within the same parties. By the way, none of this relevant to the thread topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well, meanwhile back at the fire; it's beginning to look like the Summerland parallel might be a theory here. I'm only watching the same news as everyone else but the inference seems to be the combustible cladding around the building. No one is coming out and saying it of course; it's too early and too presumptive before the inevitable inquiry, but they're certainly pointing to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: Well, meanwhile back at the fire; it's beginning to look like the Summerland parallel might be a theory here. I'm only watching the same news as everyone else but the inference seems to be the combustible cladding around the building. No one is coming out and saying it of course; it's too early and too presumptive before the inevitable inquiry, but they're certainly pointing to it. Lol, it's too early to presume but here is my presumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Woke up for a pee at 5am...and saw this in full flame. Never seen anything like it since Summerland. Horrific. How many other potential tinderboxes need checking, and guarding, immediately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Woke up for a pee at 5am...and saw this in full flame. Never seen anything like it since Summerland. Horrific. How many other potential tinderboxes need checking, and guarding, immediately? Guarding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It's a buzz word nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: Well, meanwhile back at the fire; it's beginning to look like the Summerland parallel might be a theory here. I'm only watching the same news as everyone else but the inference seems to be the combustible cladding around the building. No one is coming out and saying it of course; it's too early and too presumptive before the inevitable inquiry, but they're certainly pointing to it. Various experts have put forward that the air gap between the cladding and the building acted as a chimney for the flames. The question is its flammability. Someone passed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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