P.K. Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 My own take is that the politicos thought that with statehood they could set their own financial agenda and cash in. All well and good but they also added layers and layers of overgraded (and thus over-paid and over-pensioned CS/PS) to support the statehood delusion. While the VAT scam was supporting it all they got away with it. But once they were well and truly rumbled they should have cut their cloth accordingly. They didn't, probably fearing being chucked off the gravy train by disgruntled and redundant CS/PS, so now the white elephants are coming home to roost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, Aristotle said: How much do local retail pay? Here's the practice note. It was 2013; a bit earlier than I thought. Based on £500k retail profit or more. https://www.gov.im/media/365703/pn18113.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, JoeyDeaconsCat said: Government funded radio station accuses shareholder in rival radio station it's competing with for advertising clients of having a rant against its paymasters on social media in an attempt to embarrass him? No news here really is there? Just shows you how you can abuse your position when your a state sponsored media outlet. And if they'd have reported nothing you would accuse a state owned radio station of purposely not reporting an attack on government by one of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, woolley said: Here's the practice note. It was 2013; a bit earlier than I thought. Based on £500k retail profit or more. https://www.gov.im/media/365703/pn18113.pdf Hmmmm. Is this how things are in reality, though? Like Manx Gas, are there not special arrangements with "special" companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, woolley said: Major retail pays tax at 10%. I think it was Eddie Teare's penultimate budget. Only if they have profits of over £500,000 Woolley. Under that there's still no tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, maynragh said: As Peter Karran said to me and no doubt others, he's a bastard, but at least he's an honest bastard, he doesn't try to hide it ;-) Peter was a very good judge of character. It always surprised me the bashings he used to get on here for apparently being thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Calling someone thick is the usual favourite alongside calling someone mad to try to marginalise or ridicule them. He was no fool. I wish I'd listened to him years ago when he told me to not stick my head out, to bide my time before coming out with any political views or they'd destroy my career to stop me. I didn't listen, he was right, and they did just that. Tossers. I wish he was still an MHK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, notwell said: And if they'd have reported nothing you would accuse a state owned radio station of purposely not reporting an attack on government by one of government. They could have reported it without turning it into a complete hit piece, though, I suppose. Calling it a "rant", for example. Seems rather unprofessional, even if I do think what he said was a load of bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Aristotle said: Hmmmm. Is this how things are in reality, though? Like Manx Gas, are there not special arrangements with "special" companies? I don't think they are classed as "retail" if you check the practice note. They are utilities. It would only come within the scope of retail if they made more than £500k profit from appliances or any other incidental "stuff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I didn't have Manx Gas in mind, except as an example of a company with a special arrangement. How do we know there aren't special arrangements with large retails, incentives to bring them here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Aristotle said: Calling someone thick is the usual favourite alongside calling someone mad to try to marginalise or ridicule them. He was no fool. I wish I'd listened to him years ago when he told me to not stick my head out, to bide my time before coming out with any political views or they'd destroy my career to stop me. I didn't listen, he was right, and they did just that. Tossers. I wish he was still an MHK. He still seems to be about as I've bumped into him a few times. He needed to get out of politics though and I'm sure the current sad state of Lib Van was part of that. It's a party beyond hope that has lost Peters independent spark. It's almost the Manx Tory party now pushing an anti abortion agenda from KB and putting up prescription charges for old folk. I'm sure he's glad to be out at at least he was an honorable man who was true to his word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Good interview with Paul Moulton, very interesting. The Lib Van party has gone down hill since Beecroft took over she really is poison, spent the last term of her office sniping and now has proven totally unfit for purpose, what an ego that woman has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Mr Turner seems a little confused in at least one respect - he suggests that civil servants are applying rules that they've made up; well no civil servant would have any success in applying any rule that hadn't been approved by Tynwald. Of which Mr. Turner is a member. Perhaps he really needs to pay a little more attention to the Order Paper each month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugger Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Turner is one of the least deserving travellers on the gravy train - among stiff competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkle Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 7 hours ago, The Duck of Atholl said: yes some tough calls would have to be made but from a purely debating point of view would/should the IOM give up its national status if it meant better Government and services from across? YESSIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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