the stinking enigma Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I'd vote Barrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said: I'd vote Barrie. you must be from either Onchan or south of the Island then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 In answer to the OP...remember that you judge a man (or woman) by the company they keep. So I’d be thinking very, very hard about joining the apparatchiks in Tynwald if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said: I'd vote Barrie. Me too. Happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 20 hours ago, LightBulb said: How easy is it to stand for a local election, or as an MHK ? It's very easy to get elected, especially when there are far too many seats available. Accomplishing anything useful once elected is the real difficulty. If anybody has a moral foundation and cares about the island then I would be more than happy to provide them with free advice on how to manipulate their way to the highest office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: I'd vote Barrie. I would too. He'd be a good disruptive element that they wouldn't be able to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rushen Spy said: I would too. He'd be a good disruptive element that they wouldn't be able to control. That has been said about one or two of them and look how that panned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neil Down said: That has been said about one or two of them and look how that panned out Who? I haven't said it about anybody who has been elected. Anyway, everybody knows there is massive voter fraud and rigging all across the island. A lot of very good MHKs have probably been prevented from ever being MHKs because they were cheated and some mediocre establishment shill was allowed in instead. This island is one of the most corrupt places on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Rushen Spy said: Who? I haven't said it about anybody who has been elected. Anyway, everybody knows there is massive voter fraud and rigging all across the island. A lot of very good MHKs have probably been prevented from ever being MHKs because they were cheated and some mediocre establishment shill was allowed in instead. This island is one of the most corrupt places on the planet. Not you per se, in general. Not sure I follow your fraud conspiracy though. If you are confident of this, why not expose the corruption you believe happens. By that I don't mean on an anonymous forum that not many people take too seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Neil Down said: Not you per se, in general. Not sure I follow your fraud conspiracy though. If you are confident of this, why not expose the corruption you believe happens. By that I don't mean on an anonymous forum that not many people take too seriously... I have no interest in wasting my time proving that the earth is a sphere or that 2+2 = 5. Anybody with more than two brain cells should already know. Like I said, "everybody knows". When I said that, I meant everybody who has a clue of what is going on here on the island knows. If other people don't know then that's not my problem, nor would them being made aware be in any way a solution. As far as parliamentary democracy and Manx politics are concerned, I have not the slightest interest. Most of the corruption is at the local level and I'm content to keep repeating my view that local authorities should be done away with, not simply because of corruption, but because they are inefficient, duplicitous, unjustifiable, unaffordable, and largely unaccountable. I would like to see it all amalgamated under a central government department which is subject to the oversight of nationally elected politicians, not local busy bodies and dodgy bureaucrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 21 hours ago, LightBulb said: How easy is it to stand for a local election, or as an MHK ? just take a picture posing in a jacuzzi........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Uhtred said: In answer to the OP...remember that you judge a man (or woman) by the company they keep. So I’d be thinking very, very hard about joining the apparatchiks in Tynwald if I were you. The island will only move forward with a healthy dose of direct democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rushen Spy said: 2+2 = 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said: The island will only move forward with a healthy dose of direct democracy How would direct democracy help? What system of checks and balances would be in place to protect the rights of the individual and the rule of law under a direct democracy? I think I'm going to stick with trying to reform our fake parliamentary democracy into a real parliamentary democracy before getting behind any idea of direct democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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