Manx Expat Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: If anything, this lockdown has opened my eyes as to just how expensive it is to go to the pub a couple of times a week. Especially if you're out with the other half and you bump into a mate and his wife. Even a couple of hours sat yakking and taking it in turns to buy soon racks it up. Expensive hobby. Cost is certainly an issue in the IOM. I know of one friend who has apparently converted their garage / shed into a bar during lockdown ready for it to all end. Most people only drink within a certain social group anyway so I suppose you might as well have them round your house and chip in to buy the ale at cost rather and get your own sounds and sport TV package in than pay brewery prices. Pool table, table football or and darts board in and your done. I would imagine the pubs will be busy for a few weeks as the novelty hits then empty again when everyone remembers how much cheaper drinking at home was under lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 33 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: If anything, this lockdown has opened my eyes as to just how expensive it is to go to the pub a couple of times a week. Especially if you're out with the other half and you bump into a mate and his wife. Even a couple of hours sat yakking and taking it in turns to buy soon racks it up. Expensive hobby. Between 3 and 5 times more expensive depending on what and where you drink. Its a shame that our alcohol duty rates are decided by the UK, and that they're so awkwardly complicated. I've argued before for a 50%+ decrease in on-licence duty, and even entertained the idea of the imposition of a small additional off licence tax to cover the shortfall. If the government were to propose it they'd have to say to all freehouses, and go HARD on H&B that to do this is a hassle, that we're doing to drive trade to your pubs and that they too were expected to lower their prices by a decent amount to go with the duty cut. You could even argue it on a harm reduction basis to keep the methodists happy. It is better to have people drinking in regulated drinking holes than in secret at home. I think it would be better than looking at minimum unit pricing that raises its head every so often, and an active nightlife has other benefits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Is anyone really clamouring to get back to the pub? Good point - I think the weather is contributing to many punters being happy with a pint at home in the garden/yard/balcony etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manximus Aururaneus Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Is anyone really clamouring to get back to the pub? Goodness me - The 6 nations is not finished yet! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Manx Expat said: Cost is certainly an issue in the IOM. I know of one friend who has apparently converted their garage / shed into a bar during lockdown ready for it to all end. Most people only drink within a certain social group anyway so I suppose you might as well have them round your house and chip in to buy the ale at cost rather and get your own sounds and sport TV package in than pay brewery prices. Pool table, table football or and darts board in and your done. I would imagine the pubs will be busy for a few weeks as the novelty hits then empty again when everyone remembers how much cheaper drinking at home was under lockdown. This is how it's done. From a while ago mind.... https://youtu.be/eE9tk7h5Tjk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJ Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 9 hours ago, madmanx90 said: I'm 100% sure it isn't but I do think pubs will re open soon enough. 100%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanx90 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, PaulJ said: 100%? 110% sure I also know a man on the Inside. I know him very well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: I'm looking forward to it. Buying Bushy's Piston Brew in milk cartons from Winerite is not quite the same - still tasty though I reckon the likes of the Courthouse will be rammed by youngsters - eager to party. I suspect most 50 plus year-olds might give it a few months yet before venturing in to buy a pint. Socially distanced meals will probably be the first thing in demand. 13 hours ago, madmanx90 said: Pubs simply do not work with social distancing it's the whole point of going to the pub to socialise. I think herein lies the problems. It will potentially turn going for a pint into a very sterile experience. A bit like a heroin addict going to the pharmacy for their script. I can see people having to book an appointment. And as for queueing to get it - no thanks. Even dining out will potentially be a bit soulless. It’s going to be another tough phase for the trade for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Pubs and restaurants won't open on that basis Derek. You couldn't open McDonald's for example and expect any element of social distancing other than what naturally occurs in there. Imagine L'experience trying to operate any kind of SD policy? Or Costa. Etc. Same with pubs and late bars etc. It isn't going to happen. Schools the same. It is just ridiculous to even consider it and the expense the government are making companies go to (given the already tesring financial position so far) is just another boot in conkers when it isn't needed. Gyms and sports clubs - another section that can forget about opening under the current rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxberry Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Yeah, it's so obviously ludicrous, but no, 2m is the goal now so let's plod on ahead like fucktards. I have to laugh at the 6 to 10 per classroom - a very worthy goal but with current teachers, rooms available, amount of students it'll just mean a reduction in taught hours for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: You couldn't open McDonald's for example and expect any element of social distancing other than what naturally occurs in there. You could - drive through only 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Neil Down said: You could - drive through only The staff cannot socially distance. Impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Certain pubs could do social distancing the Cat for example but the Market ? I think if the pubs get the go ahead it will be outdoor orientated, no standing at bars , tables distancing from bar and other tables, perhaps even waiter service so not as we know it standing at the bar exchanging banter with others. H & B have been concentrating on the food side for a good few years now so in the bigger pubs it will be doable but if the tables are spaced it will mean less room, less punters, prices will inevitably rise. Unless H & B improve their choice of food they are in for a rough ride. As for alcohol sales young people will pay 5 or 6 quid for a glass of wine but when the golden oldies can buy a bottle for the same price and have been doing they are not going to flock back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, Manxberry said: Yeah, it's so obviously ludicrous, but no, 2m is the goal now so let's plod on ahead like fucktards. I have to laugh at the 6 to 10 per classroom - a very worthy goal but with current teachers, rooms available, amount of students it'll just mean a reduction in taught hours for kids. They are talking about staggering starting times so assume schools will open later to cope, it means some of teachers will have to work longer hours. Should open some if summer to allow kids to catch up. Someone on radio today saying to provision for special needs children who have been largely forgotten by education dept & schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The whole thing is unworkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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