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23 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

I've got private and healthier than the vast majority, so obviously I'm kind of biased.

The real problem is actually accessing private over here. The options are quite limited, albeit with the recent private GPs setting up. So the first line access is almost always going to be via the NHS no matter your coverage.

Good point, although, I believe, that it is entirely possible in many circumstances for an individual to contact a private specialist without GP’s referrals. I know someone who had a suspicious looking skin blemish/ mole. They contacted Professor Harrison directly and had a private consultation. As I said before, my view is that those who can afford to pay for private health treatment, probably should do so. This choice frees up places in the NHS system for residents who can’t afford the cost of going private.  

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22 minutes ago, code99 said:

This choice frees up places in the NHS system for residents who can’t afford the cost of going private.  

That is assuming, of course, that there isn't a huge migration of medics from the NHS to private practice.  

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What does any of this discussion have to do with Manx Radio ? I know they had a special programme on Friday to discuss the budget but I thought this was a thread to discuss the radio station ! 

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1 hour ago, Gladys said:

That is assuming, of course, that there isn't a huge migration of medics from the NHS to private practice.  

Agreed…but there is no evidence to support that claim, so far. According to the UK NHS: “number of licensed doctors increased in 2022, with 23,838 joining and 11,319 leaving”.

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3 hours ago, code99 said:

Agreed…but there is no evidence to support that claim, so far. According to the UK NHS: “number of licensed doctors increased in 2022, with 23,838 joining and 11,319 leaving”.

Because the NHS is substantially the same as it was from inception, the main provider (and so employer) of healthcare.  It was an assumption that there could well be an exit of medics to the private sector if the scope of the NHS was reduced, and not just for the money.

 

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I caught the end of moanin line today and they were talking about some engineer/scientist guy who had been touting geo thermal and about turned and admitted after studying the facts he had decided that it was a no goer. I thought it might be our resident geo thermal fan @Cambon. Anyone catch his name..

PS. I don't think it actually was cambon and I am not trying to reveal his identity 😄

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17 hours ago, Happier diner said:

I caught the end of moanin line today and they were talking about some engineer/scientist guy who had been touting geo thermal and about turned and admitted after studying the facts he had decided that it was a no goer. I thought it might be our resident geo thermal fan @Cambon. Anyone catch his name..

PS. I don't think it actually was cambon and I am not trying to reveal his identity 😄

It was Graham Fox-Hulme. He didn’t write it off altogether, but said due to the way the slate sits under  the main power station, drilling is almost impossible. May be different at Peel, or other places. 

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9 hours ago, Cambon said:

It was Graham Fox-Hulme. He didn’t write it off altogether, but said due to the way the slate sits under  the main power station, drilling is almost impossible. May be different at Peel, or other places. 

Erm, he said the one place it might be possible was the point of ayre, but no power station nearby. It appears that up until now he did his own research then an expert gave him the Janet and John level explanation the stupid old coot required.

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On 3/3/2024 at 1:02 AM, HiVibes said:

Erm, he said the one place it might be possible was the point of ayre, but no power station nearby. It appears that up until now he did his own research then an expert gave him the Janet and John level explanation the stupid old coot required.

There is no power station at Eary / Scard either. Doesn’t stop the half wits wanting to waste £100,000,000 on wind turbines though, does it? 
 

Actually, geothermal is possible anywhere. That is science fact. It comes down to how easy and cost. 

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15 minutes ago, Cambon said:

There is no power station at Eary / Scard either. Doesn’t stop the half wits wanting to waste £100,000,000 on wind turbines though, does it? 
 

Actually, geothermal is possible anywhere. That is science fact. It comes down to how easy and cost. 

I am sure if you read the MUA docs on selecting a wind farm site there is something in there about up north actually being a preferred option in some way, but the lack of suitable links back to the grid and the cost of implementing them ruled it out.

The proposed location for the turbines is the best location as decided by all the relevant experts with access to all the relevant info.

Just because some people on the internet who don’t have the same expertise or access to the same info a data say it isn’t, doesn’t make the MUA wrong 

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20 minutes ago, Cambon said:

There is no power station at Eary / Scard either. Doesn’t stop the half wits wanting to waste £100,000,000 on wind turbines though, does it? 
 

Actually, geothermal is possible anywhere. That is science fact. It comes down to how easy and cost. 

Why do you need a power station for wind power? It just connects directly to the grid. Do oty mean substation? For geothermal you needs steam turbines. They only exists at Pulrose

I'll give you your due, you are a stubborn Bas&^%d. But be clear, Geo thermal has never been a feasible thing for the IOM. It never will be. Of course its possible but totally economically unviable due to the hundreds of meters of rock between us and it

Where did the £100,000,000 come from?

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Most of the world geothermal plants are on the Pacific Ring of Fire, with the exceptions being in Iceland, Italy and Turkey, all very geologically active places. It has always been absurd to argue it for the Isle of Man, that volcano at Scarlett is long dead.

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17 minutes ago, CrazyDave said:

I am sure if you read the MUA docs on selecting a wind farm site there is something in there about up north actually being a preferred option in some way, but the lack of suitable links back to the grid and the cost of implementing them ruled it out.

The proposed location for the turbines is the best location as decided by all the relevant experts with access to all the relevant info.

Just because some people on the internet who don’t have the same expertise or access to the same info a data say it isn’t, doesn’t make the MUA wrong 

No existing grid, no suitable roads, no suitable landing stage, no possibility to keep spares, and that is the best to “experts” can come up with? 
How about a couple on the headland behind Peel power station, connecting straight into the grid? If the solar farm goes ahead at Andreas, they will need to install infrastructure, so it will be available for turbines at Jurby. Oh and look, loads of warehouse space for spares. It doesn’t require experts as much as common sense. 

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