The Bastard Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, 2112 said: The demo is next Tuesday 12 December 2023, 10am-2pm outside the Tynpotwald Building. It’s the last sitting of 2023. It’s not the number of people, it’s the groundswell of public anger, disappointment and bewilderment that people feel. Some are prepared to express this openly. Maybe the momentum will build into a more grassroots opposition to the current administration? People can express it openly already. Some spend their lives here having a good old moan all day. Others talk to their MHK, or stand for office. Realistically though, having a club of disgruntled people gets them out of the house and away from their keyboard but doesn't actively progress the kind of social change they're looking for. Merely expressing dissatisfaction changes nothing. If there was a groundswell of public anger, it would be reflected in the electoral ballot. Instead, people tend to vote for conservatives who promote fear of new/exciting things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, 2112 said: The demo is next Tuesday 12 December 2023, 10am-2pm outside the Tynpotwald Building. It’s the last sitting of 2023. It’s not the number of people, it’s the groundswell of public anger, disappointment and bewilderment that people feel. Some are prepared to express this openly. Maybe the momentum will build into a more grassroots opposition to the current administration? I assume you and cuuey will be there as chief critics of anything government does? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The mere fact it is formed should be a wake-up call. But it won't CoMin will probably laugh about it, Hooper will say some smug comment, Alf's army of advisers will placate him... And then one day soon... they'll wonder why they didn't get back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The Gas protest brought some change, Tynwald recoils in horror at the thought of people protesting on the street. A few placards to remind them that people are utterly pissed off with the waste of Liverpool, the Prom and Ranson alone might serve to focus their attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, 2112 said: The demo is next Tuesday 12 December 2023, 10am-2pm outside the Tynpotwald Building. It’s the last sitting of 2023. It’s not the number of people, it’s the groundswell of public anger, disappointment and bewilderment that people feel. Not about the number of people? Well isn’t the point of a demonstration to get people to turn up to show their anger, disappointment and bewilderment? If no one turns up at Tynpotwald🤪 but choose to stay at home and seethe about the government it’s not really going to have the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, HeliX said: Being mad at hair colours is the most boomer shit. No, no. Being mad at hair colours on hairdressers is even more impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Not about the number of people? Well isn’t the point of a demonstration to get people to turn up to show their anger, disappointment and bewilderment? If no one turns up at Tynpotwald🤪 but choose to stay at home and seethe about the government it’s not really going to have the same effect. You think the clowns on the hill will actually take any notice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Passing Time said: You think the clowns on the hill will actually take any notice? Of people staying at home seething? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I had a look at the facebook page, and I read the article, and I am unsure what exactly it is that they are taking a stand about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 But I'm all for protesting, so good luck to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: The Gas protest brought some change, Tynwald recoils in horror at the thought of people protesting on the street. A few placards to remind them that people are utterly pissed off with the waste of Liverpool, the Prom and Ranson alone might serve to focus their attention. Inevitably where there's a large enterprise, there will be some failures. I'd be wary of connecting the dots, seeing a pattern that isn't there. I'm not sure I'd class the Prom as a failure. It's modern, it's good to drive on, has some nice features. Has a lot in common with seafront projects at other seaside resorts I've seen. Not to the taste of the old gimmers, but as the saying goes, you can't please all the people all the time. Ranson - a definite failure, but largely focused around specific individual failures, not collective ones. Heads have already rolled, compensation has been paid. Liverpool - a definite failure, complicated by COVID and poor project management. Still in process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Bastard said: Heads have already rolled Who's heads have rolled please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The tag line on their pamphlet is “Basic living is not a luxury” Cant disagree with that. But I bet the pair of them own smartphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: The tag line on their pamphlet is “Basic living is not a luxury” Cant disagree with that. But I bet the pair of them own smartphones. They're airing the concerns of their customers. (Who probably also have smartphones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: But I bet the pair of them own smartphones. Who doesn't these days??? I do. Although I still only text and call!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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