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Andy Onchan

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38 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

People die in road accidents yes, it's extremely unlikely though, I can think of two locals in my lifetime (50 yrs+) who have been innocently killed in vans during the TT, both were decades ago, when policing was far more lax, one was on the two way mountain, one was in an area which is now speed restricted 

And how many people do you recall killed by falling effluent or donkeys?

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2 hours ago, Declan said:

And how many people do you recall killed by falling effluent or donkeys?

The point is the circumstances for those fatalities no longer exist, so the chances are the same as the donkey or the falling shit, ie no chance.

Although I guess donkeys and frozen shit don't close the roads for two weeks every year, so I guess I can see where you're coming from.

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4 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Well as no one ever appears to have been killed by falling faecal matter: 

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/its-a-bird-its-a-plane-no-its-poop/

(perhaps not best read over lunch)

that would mean that no one was ever killed by the TT.  Which doesn't really tie in with the truth.

(Not sure about people being killed by donkeys falling from planes though.  Maybe the opportunity is there to turn that into a "venerable sporting event").

Surely Gizo is not going to be watching or marshalling at the TT.

How many people not even at the event have been killed by it?  None

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7 minutes ago, CrazyDave said:

Surely Gizo is not going to be watching or marshalling at the TT.

How many people not even at the event have been killed by it?  None

I beg to differ.

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1 hour ago, Banker said:

Lots of demand for pitches at grandstand for the event which has no future according to Gizo, helmet and a few others 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/demand-for-tt-grandstand-catering-pitches-high/?fbclid=IwAR2hh2aAIe06dsJaxAnPvBpYlQIiQGBuy7EV81zvr2y3vZ3RNLzfPufAkV4

Rule of thumb from a regular caterer at the Grandstand is you cover your costs Practice week and race week is profit- people who cook burgers aren’t there for the racing - similar business model to banks smile nicely whilst ripping folks off out of their necessity.

Ask your line manager for clarification it’s probably over your grade to question.

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13 hours ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said:

Rule of thumb from a regular caterer at the Grandstand is you cover your costs Practice week and race week is profit- people who cook burgers aren’t there for the racing - similar business model to banks smile nicely whilst ripping folks off out of their necessity.

Ask your line manager for clarification it’s probably over your grade to question.

As you know but ignore the TT will once again be massively supported and traders know that which is why there’s massive demand for catering pitches, but a few idiots want it stopped so businesses fail 

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2 hours ago, Banker said:

As you know but ignore the TT will once again be massively supported and traders know that which is why there’s massive demand for catering pitches, but a few idiots want it stopped so businesses fail 

Whatever you think about the TT, this is nonsense. The TT's biggest opponents love to claim that the burger vans do well - just that no one else does.  So crying "Will no one think of the catering pitches" is just reinforcing their point.  And if any catering business relies on two weeks in the whole year to survive, they don't have a particularly robust way of operating.

The story derived from an FoI (ref 3673273), probably from an unsuccessful applicant, from which you can work out that of the 30 applicants 26 were local, but only 11 got a pitch.  2 of the 4 off-Island applicants did.  Despite the demand 3 businesses were allocated more than one pitch.  The DfE produced a table indicating how much local produce the successful applicants would be using:

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As you can see the concept that percentages add up to 100 is a stranger to them - in fact the whole thing is an incoherent mess.  Which is pretty much what you would expect from DfE and suggests the allocation process may have been similar.

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