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6 hours ago, Declan said:

I would have thought only a percentage go the legal route. 

I get lots of enquiries. I have standard advice, for free, as above. Lots of the referrals are from MHK’s as constituency business.

If they want to take it further, i advise about cost risk in small claims. They won’t be able to recover anything they pay to me.

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On 4/5/2024 at 2:41 PM, A fool and his money..... said:

If it were me I'd go and pay him a visit, let him know that I don't appreciate people taking the Mick when I've done the right thing.

I see your point but not advisable really. Just more trouble. If I get your drift that is. And tenants tend to be sometimes vulnerable anyway so are on the back foot.

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On 4/4/2024 at 7:29 PM, littlebushy said:

Any evidence of this?

Everyone down the pub says so, especially after a few pints. Those fookin' landlords, thier all fookin' barstards ya know.

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Question in Tynwald next week about landlord registration. Why do these things take so long?

'12. The Hon. Member for Legislative Council, Mr Mercer, to ask the Minister for Infrastructure – What progress has been made with the draft regulations and consultation necessary to implement the Landlord Registration (Private Housing) Act 2021; and if he will make a statement.'

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1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said:

Question in Tynwald next week about landlord registration. Why do these things take so long?

'12. The Hon. Member for Legislative Council, Mr Mercer, to ask the Minister for Infrastructure – What progress has been made with the draft regulations and consultation necessary to implement the Landlord Registration (Private Housing) Act 2021; and if he will make a statement.'

Probably dawning on them that a significant portion of Landlords saw this and thought, "fuck it, I'm out" and now there are no rentals.  The damage has however been done. 

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On 4/5/2024 at 1:36 PM, Declan said:

You do hear of lots of people having issues getting deposits returned. I would have thought only a percentage go the legal route. 

Apparently there's a whatsapp or facebook group where local landlords exchange tips on how best to fleece tenants. 

There's a few Facebook groups on how tenants cab fuck over their landlords, especially when leaving.

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On 4/11/2024 at 4:23 PM, The Phantom said:

Probably dawning on them that a significant portion of Landlords saw this and thought, "fuck it, I'm out" and now there are no rentals.  The damage has however been done. 

It comes with responsibilities and the more greedy rentiers who exit because they don’t like the idea of doing things right, the better.

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On 4/18/2024 at 8:06 AM, ian rush said:

It comes with responsibilities and the more greedy rentiers who exit because they don’t like the idea of doing things right, the better.

Yeah but what is actually happening is that an average joe that has maybe just one property they rent, perhaps their first property that they held onto before upgrading or a property they have inherited, have also looked at the requirements and responsibilities imposed and thought, it's not worth the effort.  For people that actually have rentals as their main business or investment, it might actually be worth jumping through the hoops.  In my experience, it are those people that are worst landlords. 

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In UK, rent deposits have to be put in a Tenancy Deposit Protection  scheme. I am surprised that is not the case here. 

Our IoM property we used a UK scheme, no problem. End of tenancy everything is put in their hands if there is a dispute. It is free and easy to use. I suppose all that is lost is the interest, which is a small price to pay.

 

https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection

 

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1 hour ago, Casta said:

In UK, rent deposits have to be put in a Tenancy Deposit Protection  scheme. I am surprised that is not the case here. 

Our IoM property we used a UK scheme, no problem. End of tenancy everything is put in their hands if there is a dispute. It is free and easy to use. I suppose all that is lost is the interest, which is a small price to pay.

 

https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection

 

Even if such a scheme is brought in, you would still have the usual landlord v tenant arguments about the condition a place was left in, and what it was like at the start. Mostly subjective, with no arbiter except for the courts perhaps.

I know a few professional people that have taken photographs when they moved in and out of rented accommodation - left the place in good condition (sometimes even conscientious enough to get a professional cleaner in before they moved out) - yet still faced this bullplop from landlords. A couple pursued the landlord, but most give up - which is exactly what most landlords hope you will do, given the complexity, potential costs and inconvenience involved fighting them.

If government are serious about trying to bring people here, and sorting the accommodation crisis, they need not just a deposit protection scheme, but an arbiter too, perhaps one who also holds the photographic evidence when a person moves in - that can be compared to when they move out. I think most people writing cheques for large rents and deposits would even chip in to such a scheme - a fee of e.g. £30 for such a service would make the tenant feel more protected and the landlord more wary of trying anything on. Maybe run on similar lines to, or an extension of, homestay inspections?

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12 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Even if such a scheme is brought in,

The scheme is already available and has been for years. The one we used is UK based, and double checked no problems with IoM property. Simple and straightforward. At the end of the tenancy, if there are any arguments then they are put to all parties and the TDP scheme makes a decision and takes further argument if necessary after that 

I have been involved with a few situations and it's been alright. The schemes work. I am sure there are some troublesome cases.

All landlords and tenants should do this. It is law in UK, voluntary here. I can't understand how it is an issue. I don't think IoM government are capable to run this which they would have to if it became law. So both parties, I highly recommend do it voluntary, it's good for all.

 

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