Anthony Ingham Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 5 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: What help do hospitality get? The same as everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: The same as everyone else. No corporation tax.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: The usual price for something like queenies/scallops/prawns, has been for a while now. Here and across. I know, but it's still outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: Could you keep quiet whilst the adults are talking... will you let us know when they start please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 22 minutes ago, WTF said: will you let us know when they start please. Shut up you big pooh-head 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 hours ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: The usual price for something like queenies/scallops/prawns, has been for a while now. Here and across. Shouldn't Queenies be called Kingies now? Think the Queenies will be well off by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 43 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: The same as everyone else. You mean the same as the farming ADS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I've not been in The Boathouse, not since it was a Harbour Lights anyway, but it smells terrific on a Friday lunchtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchester Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: I know, but it's still outrageous. The prices are pretty much in line with elsewhere but like you say it really is high. For me and the family to go out for a 2 course meal somewhere half decent you'd be looking at about £120 without any drinks. We're not rich by any means but do ok and there's no way we could afford to do that on a regular (or even semi regular) basis. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, manxchester said: The prices are pretty much in line with elsewhere but like you say it really is high. For me and the family to go out for a 2 course meal somewhere half decent you'd be looking at about £120 without any drinks. We're not rich by any means but do ok and there's no way we could afford to do that on a regular (or even semi regular) basis. And that is the key to this whole thread. Dining out regularly has become a luxury that many people either can't afford, or that they consider poor value for money. No amount of tinkering with VAT or tax allowances for part-time staff (another genius idea from the LVA) will change that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Ingham Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, Nellie said: And that is the key to this whole thread. Dining out regularly has become a luxury that many people either can't afford, or that they consider poor value for money. No amount of tinkering with VAT or tax allowances for part-time staff (another genius idea from the LVA) will change that. Exactly, and so like every other industry it becomes survival of the fittest (or those prepared to work the hardest) The good places will continue to do well and the poor places will struggle and close. There is no place for government interference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: Exactly, and so like every other industry it becomes survival of the fittest (or those prepared to work the hardest) The good places will continue to do well and the poor places will struggle and close. There is no place for government interference. Indeed... 'Sit forum decernere' - Let the market decide. Not... 'Biggus Dickus' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 22 minutes ago, Nellie said: And that is the key to this whole thread. Dining out regularly has become a luxury that many people either can't afford, or that they consider poor value for money. No amount of tinkering with VAT or tax allowances for part-time staff (another genius idea from the LVA) will change that. But IOMG do have their favourites when it comes to hand outs though. Sefton ring a bell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 The thing that springs to mind is that compared to 1978/9 when I returned from University and 1982, when I qualified and started to have disposable income to eat out, there are now many more catering establishments, bars, cafes, takeaways, burger joints, medium range and high end restaurants, than we have ever had, with a huge range of quality, cuisine and price. OK, we’ve not got Michelin starred establishments, but we’ve got places ranging from very good to indifferent. The good ones, offering the right product, at the right price to their chosen market, and which are run well, will survive. Those that don’t/aren’t won’t. ‘Twas ever thus. Catering is a risky business. Hard to gauge. What is the dogs bollocks one week caN fast fall out of favour, as fickle custom chases the next new thing. Few establishments last more than a decade. Lots fail much faster. And they fail for all sorts of reasons. Im sure the economic climate is tight, and of course there has been the effect of covid, meaning that lots of places no longer had the cushion they used to. I’m not sure that it justifies the industry call for support. The one area we have many fewer places is traditional small boozers, selling decent cask conditioned beers. The two breweries had nearly 100 pubs. Now down to 35ish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 24 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: Exactly, and so like every other industry it becomes survival of the fittest (or those prepared to work the hardest) The good places will continue to do well and the poor places will struggle and close. There is no place for government interference. That's bollocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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