Anthony Ingham Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 9 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Make your mind up, you were all for the new facility being built yesterday I still am. How on earth did you get anything else from that post in reply to what Holte End had put? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Holte End said: I think the hospital has enough buildings to facilitate a sexual assault referral centre, without spending £3million plus extra's, so about £4million by the time it is finished. This will be 2% extra on our taxes seen and spent. Indeed. The hospital estate is massive with plenty of unused buildings/facilities and all the resources of a modern hospital on site. This new development has someone's name on it and has been pushed through Tynwald and Treasury (By Hooper ?) despite the staggering cost to the taxpayer. Staffing and running costs will be another million + p.a. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dirty Buggane said: So how big is the team to staff the facility, is it 24/7 52 weeks. Are the police increasing there numbers to cover staff seconded to the unit. Will it have its own ceo and deputy and admin. Have nothing against the idea but will we be looking at £4 to 5 million a year costs, when in all probability it can be covered by a dedicated suite at the hospital calling on professionals as and when needed. They won’t create a dedicated suite at the hospital, as the politicos and civil servants will say it’s not up to standards. Beside the Home Affairs and Justice Secretary of State Minister Poole-Wilson likes her cheesy grin in the newspaper. The old Nobles site could have accommodated what was required. Still we can look on the bright side ……………. an excuse for a Royal visit to unveil a plaque. Edited May 10 by 2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 We have a tendency to over-size. How often are the 20 custody cells at Police Headquarters fully used? https://unlade2.rssing.com/chan-1197226/article14380.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 7 hours ago, Anthony Ingham said: And meet all the relevant guidelines for gaining forensic evidence for submission in a trial? I hope your not saying that any cases that have gone before could be called into question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 50 minutes ago, Holte End said: I hope your not saying that any cases that have gone before could be called into question. There are many cases where the victims, knowing what their experience will be in the process of evidence gathering and trial, have decided to withdraw from the process and let the perpetrators go free, so a proper, modern facility to ease the experience and ensure the highest standards of practice is to be welcomed. That said, it has not been clearly established that the proposed building is appropriate and that a cheaper alternative might not have been suitable. As usual the press fails to secure all the info and we're left with half a story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorik Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Worth checking out the planning application as documents on there answer a lot of the questions about why and where. Can't search it up myself at the minute but reasonably easy to find on the gov.im online services planning site 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Ingham Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 14 minutes ago, yorik said: Worth checking out the planning application as documents on there answer a lot of the questions about why and where. Can't search it up myself at the minute but reasonably easy to find on the gov.im online services planning site Yes, but people prefer to just moan without doing any reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I think the key question is, why is the Crookall Centre inadequate for the job, and can it be made suitable at less cost than that quoted? Also, what is the demand for these services, how many people per day/week/month/year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutney Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I wonder if suspects will be taken there to have their examination ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: There are many cases where the victims, knowing what their experience will be in the process of evidence gathering and trial, have decided to withdraw from the process and let the perpetrators go free, so a proper, modern facility to ease the experience and ensure the highest standards of practice is to be welcomed. That said, it has not been clearly established that the proposed building is appropriate and that a cheaper alternative might not have been suitable. As usual the press fails to secure all the info and we're left with half a story. A proper modern facility is indeed necessary, but why that couldn't be achieved in an existing building (with a discrete entrance) is not clear. They managed to re-purpose the airport for a vax centre. You would think that more important than a new building would be adequately trained, sympathetic and caring staff. Let's hope it is not another Summerhill View, and that sufficient staff are available. Would they have to be dedicated or could they be drawn from other areas as and when the need arose? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cndn7x7gyz7o Is this the same place? The news item is dated 20 February 2024. "Construction of the Sarc is expected to cost about £830,000." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, yorik said: Can't search it up myself at the minute but reasonably easy to find on the gov.im online services planning site Either the ID or the location is required to easily find the application. I cannot find the location in any news item. The other possibility is to go through the entire planning application list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 43 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Either the ID or the location is required to easily find the application. I cannot find the location in any news item. The other possibility is to go through the entire planning application list... I gave up, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Probably want to keep the location secret, but how does that work with planning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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