TheTeapot Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roxanne said: See? It’s fucking mental. Someone needs to reign it in before we have WW3. Good Old Joe is on his way. Maybe he'll be a surprising Peacemaker? (Sorry, that's more fucking mental talk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, TheTeapot said: Good Old Joe is on his way. Maybe he'll be a surprising Pacemaker? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: (Sorry, that's more fucking mental talk It's OK. It's a mental situation and mental situations call for mental talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 In lighter news, I wonder if this has anything to do with spending the last week claiming the Manx Labour Party are Hamas supporters? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 He was having a bit of a crisis there, probably for the best he took a break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Good Old Joe is on his way. Maybe he'll be a surprising Peacemaker? (Sorry, that's more fucking mental talk) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, HeliX said: In lighter news, I wonder if this has anything to do with spending the last week claiming the Manx Labour Party are Hamas supporters? All that same shit is still there on michaeljosem.com, though, which makes you wonder if he fell or if he was pushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Sheldon said: All that same shit is still there on michaeljosem.com, though, which makes you wonder if he fell or if he was pushed. Given he's completely incapabale of being reasonable of his own volition it's probably safe to assume he was pushed. Edited October 17, 2023 by HeliX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, HeliX said: Given he's completely incabale of being reasonable of his own volition it's probably safe to assume he was pushed. He’s never, and will never, forgive Joney for winning with the larger majority. I was there on the day and he was so self assured that nothing but nothing was going to get in his way to victory. He even had me convinced that he was going to win. Ever since, he’s used every possible avenue to discredit her and the MLP. It’s really just a testament to me about how completely unsuitable he is for any kind of public office. I’m not looking at his website. My head can’t take it today. Anyway, as you were. Edited October 17, 2023 by Roxanne 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 hours ago, HeliX said: How many do? But the answer is that some Gazans perhaps feel quite strongly that it's unfair they and their parents/grandparents were ousted from their homes and forced to live in poverty in a tiny strip of land under constant oppression by the state that ousted them. A fraction of those who feel aggreived by that will join radical groups. So the solution, rather than causing masses more death in the Gazan population which will make it worse, like it always does, is to begin to fix the ills causing the ill-will... Idiot. You're absolutely not in the real world. Because Hamas always fires their rockets from densely populated areas the Israelis do not use a counter battery system. Instead they took the moral high ground to ensure there were no "innocent" Palestinians hurt in a counter strike and developed Iron Dome. I have always thought this was a big mistake for two reasons. Firstly it allowed Hamas to fire their rockets with impunity. Secondly in a situation where you are dealing with amoral murderous scumbags like Hamas if you do nothing the only thing that changes is that the situation gets worse. Absolutely fucking guaranteed. Hence the assault last week. What this should tell everyone, even the bleeding hearts on here, is that there's clearly only one way to treat these people and there's no room for morality because it's seen as a weakness to be exploited... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, P.K. said: Because Hamas always fires their rockets from densely populated areas the Israelis do not use a counter battery system. It's 25miles long and 2miles across with over 2million people in it. The entire thing is "densely populated areas". Quote Instead they took the moral high ground to ensure there were no "innocent" Palestinians hurt in a counter strike and developed Iron Dome. I have always thought this was a big mistake for two reasons. Firstly it allowed Hamas to fire their rockets with impunity. Secondly in a situation where you are dealing with amoral murderous scumbags like Hamas if you do nothing the only thing that changes is that the situation gets worse. Absolutely fucking guaranteed. Hence the assault last week. What this should tell everyone, even the bleeding hearts on here, is that there's clearly only one way to treat these people and there's no room for morality because it's seen as a weakness to be exploited... This is "doing nothing", is it? Quote Idiot. You're absolutely not in the real world. Hilarious comment from a person advocating a continuation of the exact strategy that has been demonstrated to not fucking work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 hours ago, manxman1980 said: P.K. is essentially saying that there are no innocent Palestinians because 17 years ago an election took place and Hamas won. As a result every Palestinian is now responsible for the actions of Hamas. I've never said that. In drawing attention to the election it's clear that the majority support Hamas. Although not clearly enough for some people it would seem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, P.K. said: In drawing attention to the election it's clear that the majority support Hamas. Most of the Palestinians in Gaza have never voted for anyone. 50% of the inhabitants weren't even born when the last election took place. Most of those that were, were children. Hamas didn't even win a majority in the 2006 election. Across the Western Bank and Gaza it won a plurality with 44.45% of the vote. In Gaza Hamas didn't win a majority of the votes in any district. No reasonable observer would claim that that makes it "clear that the majority support Hamas". For balance it's also not evidence that the majority don't support Hamas. It's simply not something that any meaningful conclusion can be drawn from because it doesn't even involve current residents of the place. Edited October 17, 2023 by HeliX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Israel just bombed Al-Ahli hospital in old city of Gaza with hundreds of people inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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