Sellafield, How safe on our doorstep..?

[GD4ELI]

 

Don't watch TV (have a life)

 

 

How are your amatuer radio buddies doing? Lol.

 

 

Lol - very well, getting older

[woolley]

It beats the alternative.

[Lisenchuk]

What's a "major incident"?

When the bearded ones of Ramsey develop glow in the dark facial hair you know there's been a "major incident"

 

Rhumsaa displays no incandescence to date,so we're safe for now.

[ManxTaxPayer]

My doorstep glows in the dark.

[Skeletor]

I used to be dead.

[Rhumsaa]

 

What's a "major incident"?

When the bearded ones of Ramsey develop glow in the dark facial hair you know there's been a "major incident"

 

Rhumsaa displays no incandescence to date,so we're safe for now.

 

 

I am pleased to provide value to the forums, and indeed the island, by being a large bearded canary

[KERED]

Quite a few years ago there was a lady on the island who used to speak out against Sellafeild. She mysteriously "accidentally" died.

 

And the chairman of BNFL, at the time was Con Allday. Very appropriate.

[mojomonkey]

Quite a few years ago there was a lady on the island who used to speak out against Sellafeild. She mysteriously "accidentally" died.

Who was that?

[Rhumsaa]

 

Quite a few years ago there was a lady on the island who used to speak out against Sellafeild. She mysteriously "accidentally" died.

Who was that?

 

 

Give him a few moments to make up a name you can't Google

[Bobbie Bobster]

Brenda Google

 

[llap]

 

Quite a few years ago there was a lady on the island who used to speak out against Sellafeild. She mysteriously "accidentally" died.

Who was that?

I don't know. My grandad told me about it and he couldn't remember her name when I asked for it, but if he said it happened then it happened.

[Rhumsaa]

 

 

Quite a few years ago there was a lady on the island who used to speak out against Sellafeild. She mysteriously "accidentally" died.

Who was that?

I don't know. My grandad told me about it and he couldn't remember her name when I asked for it, but if he said it happened then it happened.

 

 

seems legit

[Lisenchuk]

Conspiracy fearist,so yer are.

[Skillet Fillet]

time to dig a bunker?

[Panopticon]

1.) "Review of oceanographic processes influencing radioactive waste dispersal in the Irish Sea." (1986)

http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/view/subjects/GC.html

http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/15099/1/15099-01.pdf

 

 

I haven't checked whether Sellafield is storage only now or if there are ongoing [intentional] 'discharges'. Also I don't know enough about this generally from a technical perspective, so just flag up the above source since it *may* be of continuing relevance. Given its content, there were points noted for further investigation in 1986, whether or not Sellafield's status was later storage-only.

[. . . ]

"The effluent discharged into the sea from the nuclear reprocessing plant
at Sellafield contains a number of radioactive isotopes of long half life.
There is concern to ensure that these isotopes, particularly the [alpha] emitting
isotopes of plutonium and americium, are dispersed or buried and do not present
a hazard to man. The critical future pathway to man is thought to be via the
atmosphere and human inhalation of the radionuclides. This report reviews the
oceanographic processes that are involved in either contributing to this
pathway or to final deposition of the radionuclide, highlights the crucial
factors governing transport and exchange, and defines areas in which
insufficient is known.

Upon discharge much of the radioactivity becomes associated with the
sediment particles, and the majority of the radionuclides discharged in the
past are to be found in a muddy area of the sea bed within 30km of the
pipeline. This contaminated sediment undergoes intense bioturbation, and since
little new sediment appears to be depositing, the radioactivity is not buried,
but is continually available for physical, chemical or biological
remobilization and transport to other areas. During stormy periods physical
stirring brings the sediment into suspension and spray from breaking waves can
convey the contaminated particles into the atmosphere where they can be blown
ashore. In calmer periods chemical or biological remobilization may be
significant. Marine processes could also transport the particles into
estuaries and onto the beaches where, in the intertidal areas, they could
become windblown.

It is concluded that transport is almost entirely dominated by physical
processes, though chemical and biological processes are important in
determining the stability of the radionuclide/particle interactions. There is
a major lack of knowledge of the processes involved in the transfer and of the
rates of transfer which makes prediction of the ultimate fate of the
radionuclides impossible at present.


In particular it is concluded that studies are needed to:

1. Clarify the processes by which the radionuclides become associated with
the sediment particles upon discharge.

2. Determine independently the rates of erosion or deposition in the muddy area
off Sellafield."
[etc etc, see the pdf for them all]

 

 

2.) I have a tape compendium of Pathe' Newsreel excerpts from 1957 among which figures a scene of Cumberland (?) farmers pouring milk down the drains following the Sellafield/Windscale 'effusion' of October 1957, as previously cited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire

 

3) Given that the thrust of the 1986 paper seems to be the principal potential threat was via airborne particles, the relative incidence of certain types of cancer in the IoM population may or may not produce some interesting correspondences.

4) Cancer and GcMAF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqMohmjJ4mg - August 2014 weekend intro discussion.

"Caveat spectator"