Mr. Sausages Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, woody2 said: 12 year olds are already taking e in peel...... Lunchtime on a Monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: It is a farce you're right, but I'd prefer it if people didnt smoke it (or indeed smoke tobacco) next to or in kids parks. From the perspective of a smoker. But people do smoke tobacco, and drink alcohol, in kids parks. Both vices that are deemed socially acceptable and legal. We need to move with the times and get ahead of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, Mr. Sausages said: There's a lot of research going on in the US regarding the use of MDMA as a treatment for PTSD, and psilocybin (magic mushrooms) as a treatment for depression. Cannabis is effectively legal in some states, with conservative businessmen investing into it to get rich. UK and IOM will catch on eventually. i knew peel was bad but...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If the uk legalises cannabis it will probably only take about 25 years for the iom to follow suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I think that research into the medical use of drugs such as cannabis and MDMA has been hindered by governments. It seems that there are benefits to be gained in both of those and perhaps others. There's no doubt that there will be drawbacks to using recreational drugs but would decriminalising or legalising them lead to more people using them? If you really want to use them I'm sure they are all readily available if you look. Surely putting a tiny fraction of the money wasted in trying to fight a war on drugs into information and education programmes would reap much greater benefits for all concerned? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 .............and when you consider the side effect of the prescription drugs I take just to stay alive then I can't believe that the side effects of cannabis are worse.......... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 hours ago, doc.fixit said: .............and when you consider the side effect of the prescription drugs I take just to stay alive then I can't believe that the side effects of cannabis are worse.......... There are always potential side effects from all things consumed, you could one day first eat a peanut and die, what we need is the right to choose what side effects we are willing to risk having for the benefits of what we consume. The government have no part to play in this other than to allow legally sold with the health warning that literally anything can happen but that it is hoped that only the best effects and results are experienced......or they could continue what they already do and this is to warn us all about everything. With regard to keeping it say from children, if you compare it to the demonic bombardment of advertising and marketing we allow our children, as well as some of our own opinions and behaviours, to be exposed to then seeing a a minority of people smoking a spliff is of negligible concern, unless the children are being forced to do themselves by evil doers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Max Power said: I think that research into the medical use of drugs such as cannabis and MDMA has been hindered by governments. It seems that there are benefits to be gained in both of those and perhaps others. There's no doubt that there will be drawbacks to using recreational drugs but would decriminalising or legalising them lead to more people using them? If you really want to use them I'm sure they are all readily available if you look. Surely putting a tiny fraction of the money wasted in trying to fight a war on drugs into information and education programmes would reap much greater benefits for all concerned? This is an interesting question, and I am not sure of the answer. A few years ago when 'plant food' and other legal highs were around a number of people who would never take an E were into it, I tried pointing out how daft they were but people never listen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 47 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: This is an interesting question, and I am not sure of the answer. A few years ago when 'plant food' and other legal highs were around a number of people who would never take an E were into it, I tried pointing out how daft they were but people never listen. Good point, the word 'legal' must have put some sort of seal of approval on the stuff, despite the fact that they were probably worse than ecstacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Canadia has gone and done it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44543286 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Decriminalise use, then tax and regulate all drugs. Take the profit out of supplying. That is the only way forward. Crime would drop like a stone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, woolley said: Decriminalise use, then tax and regulate all drugs. Take the profit out of supplying. That is the only way forward. Crime would drop like a stone. Plus the generated income via tax would go a long way in funding essential services on the Island. My guess is that our elected clots will wait until the UK have legalised it then pay millions in consultancy fees to see if the IOM could follow suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Neil Down said: Plus the generated income via tax would go a long way in funding essential services on the Island. My guess is that our elected clots will wait until the UK have legalised it then pay millions in consultancy fees to see if the IOM could follow suit Agreed. The window of opportunity will only shrink. The IOM really need to get in there quickly and 1. enjoy the increased Tourism & 2. enjoy the insane tax benefits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 The trouble with trying to tax cannabis is that it's a bit too easy to just grow your own. I think it's possible they may be aware of this. We need protecting from being able to avoid taxes. It's unhealthy for the nation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: The trouble with trying to tax cannabis is that it's a bit too easy to just grow your own. You could make an equivalent argument re beer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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