P.K. Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, homarus said: Click on the ""Racist"" Tommy Robinson at Facebook and educate yourself to what has been going on worldwide since he's been arrested! CBA tbh. Facetube is rubbish. And it would be even more rubbish if I knew how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 13 hours ago, John Wright said: Because they weren’t filming the defendants entering court they did...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, P.K. said: CBA tbh. Facetube is rubbish. And it would be even more rubbish if I knew how to use it. Wonderful,just wonderful!! Take the red pill and look behind the curtain mate and maybe stop swallowing the MSM pap that they're feeding us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, P.K. said: CBA tbh. Ahh. PK. That is the correct answer. So "they" can rest easy for a little while longer then. Only a little while though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 His arrest has prompted protests worldwide in the past week but has been almost completely shut down by the UK MSM . The wilful ignorance of most on here is astounding! You'd almost think they were too scared to to take their heads out of the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, homarus said: His arrest has prompted protests worldwide in the past week but has been almost completely shut down by the UK MSM . The wilful ignorance of most on here is astounding! You'd almost think they were too scared to to take their heads out of the sand. Robinson is a xenophobic rabble-rouser who heads up a racist ultra right-wing group of nutters one of whom murdered Jo Cox MP. Anyone who supports them in any way, shape or form is completely delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, homarus said: I found that clip pretty disturbing to be honest! Don't know if you can view it properly John as I'm not the best on the Internet! I don’t know what the woman had done. Do you? On its own the clip is meaningless. As for “organised public acts of worship” in a Royal Park, just think about it. How do you define it? What is involved in organised, or public. If I sit on a bench, in a Royal Park, bow my head in prayer and put my hands together, pray silently? If I sing “Jesús loves me for a sunbeam”? If someone I don’t know sits at the opposite end of the bench, and joins in? If I’m a single Muslim and it’s prayer time and I prostate myself? If it’s two together? Those aren’t offences, or breaches of bye-laws or rules.. Proving organisation would be difficult. Very difficult, and whilst a group of Muslims prostrating themselves, or Christians praying, next to one another at the same time may look and sound like the duck of prohibited organised public worship, proving it is nigh impossible and the spectre of false arrest/imprisonment looms. Its easy for those who object to a perfectly legal minority activity to present it as something else, because of their own minority obsessions or political purposes. Don’t take everything you find on the internet at face value. As for MSM not reporting Tommy, well, one deluded fraudster doing something he knew was wrong, and admitted at the first opportunity, is hardly front page news, neither are the actions of a few people protesting about it. There are dozens, hundreds, of marches, parades and protests every day in the UK. Few are ever reported, anywhere. Lack of coverage isn’t a conspiracy of silence. And as for the fact that Veterans Against Terrorism organised the Manchester March, does being ( claiming to be ) a veteran make them anymore virtuous or is it just a different “sympathy” card. Veterans, just like any societal group, have a broad spectrum of political views. They claim to be neutral, not left or right, not anti Muslim, but if they’re judged by the company they keep, actively campaigning for Gerrard Batten as UKIP leader, and supporting UKIP and associating with the Football Lads Alliance, another alleged neutral body, so neutral that it’s donation to RBL ( itself not known as a bastion of liberal thought ) was returned because it’s views were incompatible, then I’m not so sure of their professed left/right neutrality or lack of an anti Muslim agenda. That being said, I wouldn’t describe them as scum. I don’t describe anyone as scum. As long as you observe the law of the land you’re allowed to think, speak, demonstrate as you feel you must. I may not agree with your politics or philosophy, but I’ll defend your rights. But actually overstep the Law and you should expect the consequences. i do get concerned of the hijacking of Veterans as an idea or badge, likewise the poppy, to the extent it’s almost impossible to criticise their use without risking opprobrium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, P.K. said: Robinson is a xenophobic rabble-rouser who heads up a racist ultra right-wing group of nutters one of whom murdered Jo Cox MP. Not really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, quilp said: Not really... What, they run whist drives or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, John Wright said: If I sing “Jesús loves me for a sunbeam”? Your church sounds a bit kinky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, John Wright said: I don’t know what the woman had done. Do you? On its own the clip is meaningless. As for “organised public acts of worship” in a Royal Park, just think about it. How do you define it? What is involved in organised, or public. If I sit on a bench, in a Royal Park, bow my head in prayer and put my hands together, pray silently? If I sing “Jesús loves me for a sunbeam”? If someone I don’t know sits at the opposite end of the bench, and joins in? If I’m a single Muslim and it’s prayer time and I prostate myself? If it’s two together? Those aren’t offences, or breaches of bye-laws or rules.. Proving organisation would be difficult. Very difficult, and whilst a group of Muslims prostrating themselves, or Christians praying, next to one another at the same time may look and sound like the duck of prohibited organised public worship, proving it is nigh impossible and the spectre of false arrest/imprisonment looms. Its easy for those who object to a perfectly legal minority activity to present it as something else, because of their own minority obsessions or political purposes. Don’t take everything you find on the internet at face value. As for MSM not reporting Tommy, well, one deluded fraudster doing something he knew was wrong, and admitted at the first opportunity, is hardly front page news, neither are the actions of a few people protesting about it. There are dozens, hundreds, of marches, parades and protests every day in the UK. Few are ever reported, anywhere. Lack of coverage isn’t a conspiracy of silence. And as for the fact that Veterans Against Terrorism organised the Manchester March, does being ( claiming to be ) a veteran make them anymore virtuous or is it just a different “sympathy” card. Veterans, just like any societal group, have a broad spectrum of political views. They claim to be neutral, not left or right, not anti Muslim, but if they’re judged by the company they keep, actively campaigning for Gerrard Batten as UKIP leader, and supporting UKIP and associating with the Football Lads Alliance, another alleged neutral body, so neutral that it’s donation to RBL ( itself not known as a bastion of liberal thought ) was returned because it’s views were incompatible, then I’m not so sure of their professed left/right neutrality or lack of an anti Muslim agenda. That being said, I wouldn’t describe them as scum. I don’t describe anyone as scum. As long as you observe the law of the land you’re allowed to think, speak, demonstrate as you feel you must. I may not agree with your politics or philosophy, but I’ll defend your rights. But actually overstep the Law and you should expect the consequences. i do get concerned of the hijacking of Veterans as an idea or badge, likewise the poppy, to the extent it’s almost impossible to criticise their use without risking opprobrium. Excellent post JW. VAT was formed as a result of the Manchester bombing on the 22nd May so auspicious timing. Although what they think they can do against a lone wolf nobody trying to be a somebody is kind-of difficult to figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 It is not necessary to support any group to be able to discern cause and effect. You just need a functioning brain to observe and comprehend the course of history taking place before your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, P.K. said: Although what they think they can do against a lone wolf nobody trying to be a somebody is kind-of difficult to figure. Think Jo Cox's killer. And that other white nutter driving the van... 2 minutes ago, woolley said: It is not necessary to support any group to be able to discern cause and effect. You just need a functioning brain to observe and comprehend the course of history taking place before your eyes. Spot on woollster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, John Wright said: As for MSM not reporting Tommy, well, one deluded fraudster doing something he knew was wrong, and admitted at the first opportunity, is hardly front page news, neither are the actions of a few people protesting about it. There are dozens, hundreds, of marches, parades and protests every day in the UK. Few are ever reported, anywhere. Lack of coverage isn’t a conspiracy of silence. court stopped media reports until it was overturned after the bank holiday...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 pouring stella over the gates of downing street is comedy genius...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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