Hillside Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 5:54 PM, Derek Flint said: The LCY - NY route runs on a 50 seater 737. Light take off, stops in Shannon for refuel and clearing US borders. Walk straight through at JFK. Can you see us having US clearing here? It’s an A319 and also all business class configuration. Can you see the IOM providing 50 premium passengers every day Mon-Fri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 8:51 PM, Derek Flint said: 757 has a colossal performance envelope. Easy fit for here and about the biggwst you might operate. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Really? Yep - it was hugely over-powered with a very strong airframe. Quite a piece of kit in its day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 The suggestion of a direct IOM-New York route is crazy. We wouldn't fill one flight a week; indeed one a month probably - it'd never pay unless the fares were astronomical...and no-one would bother if they were. The whole thing is bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Yep - it was hugely over-powered with a very strong airframe. Quite a piece of kit in its day. As Nellie has pointed out, it would have to be empty and running on vapour to takeoff from Ronaldsway. And that was in the days before RESA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Uhtred said: The suggestion of a direct IOM-New York route is crazy. We wouldn't fill one flight a week; indeed one a month probably - it'd never pay unless the fares were astronomical...and no-one would bother if they were. The whole thing is bollocks. Not in the vision of our politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Not in the vision of our politicians. Are they not just following the scope of Government report 2012. https://www.gov.im/media/626819/2012scopeofgovernmentreport.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: As Nellie has pointed out, it would have to be empty and running on vapour to takeoff from Ronaldsway. And that was in the days before RESA! It was actually 10 years ago! There have been quite a few other 757's over the years, and some did direct flights to the Med. So they can operate, in and out, quite comfortably over their usual range although there may well have been payload, or performance restrictions. They are a dying breed now though, and the very occasional A321 is the largest we are likely to see, in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 An approximate £3.7m trading loss at the airport, how don’t they have an actual P&L for the airport? This is incompetence at the highest level and what does the CEO do? Another who should be sacked on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gizo said: An approximate £3.7m trading loss at the airport, how don’t they have an actual P&L for the airport? This is incompetence at the highest level and what does the CEO do? Another who should be sacked on the spot. I laugh at how we supposedly have the top people running the airport at great salary, but need further reports and directives to actually run the place ? WTF are we paying large CS salaries for ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 If only Isle of Man Government employed people who knew what they were doing rather than people who just tell them they know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 You really have to wonder what else has to happen before someone is fired at that place. Millions spent and nothing but mediocrity and screw up after screw up. If this was the private sector like, I don't know, a small airport in Germany a few years ago maybe (funny how google says " Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe." if you search for it these days) someone would have been shown the door already, but for some reason on this little isle you can get away with that sort of performance. Sad, really. Millions spent and the place doesn't operate right and looks like the waiting room of Royston Vasey's bus station. Doesn't even have charging ports for laptops and phones or anything that would make it look less dreary and worn out. Hopefully this time there will be consequences but I'm not holding my breath. If past performance is any indication, this latest episode will only lead to another promotion. Ultimately this is all political failure of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 It's just all not the way it used to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Hillside said: It’s an A319 and also all business class configuration. Can you see the IOM providing 50 premium passengers every day Mon-Fri? Close....it's actually a 318. That is currently the largest type of aircraft that can use LCY. Regarding the development of the airport, having a runway that allows for landings in all bar the poorest visibilities surely has to be the main priority. Far too often hospital appointments are missed, holidays ruined and other important travel plans are thwarted because of lack of systems to allow the aircraft to land in visibilities they and their crews are certified to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, Amadeus said: It's just all not the way it used to be... Not a patch on Cambrian and their Viscount aircraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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