Chinahand Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, display name said: When was Leicester multicultural? Proof of ignorance provided. If there was any justice this should be a prerequisite for leaving not joining a thread but sadly in the real world all you can do is request “learn something of a subject before asking of it”. Try this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-20678326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Proof of ignorance provided. If there was any justice this should be a prerequisite for leaving not joining a thread but sadly in the real world all you can do is request “learn something of a subject before asking of it”. Try this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-20678326 Non so blind as those that will not see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Non so blind as those that will not see... who said that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Confusious or confused not sure which Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Non so blind as those that will not see... In Leicester its best not to look or you may just find. https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/leicester-named-one-most-polluted-1531913 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Chinahand said: Proof of ignorance provided. If there was any justice this should be a prerequisite for leaving not joining a thread but sadly in the real world all you can do is request “learn something of a subject before asking of it”. Try this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-20678326 Oh dear,another comment that went straight over your head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 Well that was a well formed debate..Some of you are so wishing to please yourselves that you say nothing of value..Oh and I am just back from the pub according to the resident clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, SJR said: Oh and I am just back from the pub according to the resident clown. On 2/8/2020 at 7:44 PM, SJR said: The other my mate in the Albert ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I think anyone looking to be an MLC should have some political experience or some experience in law if they are supposed to be overseeing laws etc., I also think they should be culled to to five at the most and no Bishop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: I think anyone looking to be an MLC should have some political experience or some experience in law if they are supposed to be overseeing laws etc., I also think they should be culled to to five at the most and no Bishop. I think they should be got rid of altogether. The upper house is a gilded cage for failed MHK's with a penchant for trousering lots of taxpayers money for doing little of value and bored folks who fancy hobby politics without the drag of canvassing and getting elected.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, P.K. said: I think they should be got rid of altogether. The upper house is a gilded cage for failed MHK's with a penchant for trousering lots of taxpayers money for doing little of value and bored folks who fancy hobby politics without the drag of canvassing and getting elected.... At one point it was a vehicle for MHKs to move upstairs after so many years service as an MHK. Then it became a vehicle for failed, underperforming and ridiculed MHKs, a form of lifeboat for them and ensured that MHKs had their definition of right candidate for the role. Now it has become a laughing stock, still a home for failure and political patronage, or collective nepotism and cronyism. It’s made worse by the supposed job definition that it’s encouraging legislation scrutiny etc. By that definition the upper chamber could then be home for Athol Streets finest failures. Or why not give the roles to current serving members of the judiciary - First or Second Deemster, High and Deputy High Bailiff. Look at the mess the Keys made of Micheal Moyle! On the other hand, it’s still a nepotism and cronyism based vehicle judging by the candidates currently standing. It’s either the HRH The Chief Minister and Alfie Cannon nominated numpty, or the Beecroft-Costain or whatever your called this minute, and Allinson/Barber Show whereby they submit their mates. It’s CRONYISM!!!!! and it stinks. To think there are many residents who hold their MHK and MLC in high regards and esteem - deference, like the days of the serfs doffing their caps and tugging their forelocks to their masters. A suggestion - that elections are held by the public for 8 MLCs serving for a period of 5 years. The salary should be reduced due to less workload but the term served would be longer. Perhaps we could encourage, retired older people - late 50s and 60s. No more retired civil servants, no more retired politicos. No more quotas, no more tick- boxes. Are we now to have a quota for LGBT+, Religious Diversity and Gender Politics? Let the public decide, if they screw it up, then they shoulder the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxy Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The MHK and MLC Manxmen and women of the island have become knotted in their own runaround styles and most appear to have taken on the quieter route of survival. Follow your trusted long haul 'Do it my way' representative and seek the treasured pension pot and the little luxuries that can be found if you follow 'their way' and forget the little people of the island as they're not worthy of listening to! Thats what they're coming across as! They're looking after the industry giants and best buddy friends, using the media for misinformation purposes and have lost the ears and eyes of the people. IMO, time to take a step back guys and it may upset a few big ego cheeses, but time to start listening to the people and do the simple things that made the island what it was. There's some good ideas out there and they don't all have to be futuristic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 17 hours ago, display name said: When was Leicester multicultural? Leicester is a hugely multicultural city. Some suggestion on IOM Today comments that Ms Hoosen left Nobles and launched a UD claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, The Duck of Atholl said: Leicester is a hugely multicultural city. Some suggestion on IOM Today comments that Ms Hoosen left Nobles and launched a UD claim IOM TODAY? That'll be accurate then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 hours ago, 2112 said: At one point it was a vehicle for MHKs to move upstairs after so many years service as an MHK. Then it became a vehicle for failed, underperforming and ridiculed MHKs, a form of lifeboat for them and ensured that MHKs had their definition of right candidate for the role. Now it has become a laughing stock, still a home for failure and political patronage, or collective nepotism and cronyism. It’s made worse by the supposed job definition that it’s encouraging legislation scrutiny etc. By that definition the upper chamber could then be home for Athol Streets finest failures. Or why not give the roles to current serving members of the judiciary - First or Second Deemster, High and Deputy High Bailiff. Look at the mess the Keys made of Micheal Moyle! On the other hand, it’s still a nepotism and cronyism based vehicle judging by the candidates currently standing. It’s either the HRH The Chief Minister and Alfie Cannon nominated numpty, or the Beecroft-Costain or whatever your called this minute, and Allinson/Barber Show whereby they submit their mates. It’s CRONYISM!!!!! and it stinks. To think there are many residents who hold their MHK and MLC in high regards and esteem - deference, like the days of the serfs doffing their caps and tugging their forelocks to their masters. A suggestion - that elections are held by the public for 8 MLCs serving for a period of 5 years. The salary should be reduced due to less workload but the term served would be longer. Perhaps we could encourage, retired older people - late 50s and 60s. No more retired civil servants, no more retired politicos. No more quotas, no more tick- boxes. Are we now to have a quota for LGBT+, Religious Diversity and Gender Politics? Let the public decide, if they screw it up, then they shoulder the blame. I'd be comfortable with the upper house appointing retired Deemsters/High Bailiffs. No salary as their pensions are more than adequate but pay them an attendance fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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