The Voice of Reason Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Watched a few clips featuring this Ashfield ex miner Tory MP. Ashfield is my neck of the woods where I grew up. In my younger years I would despise him because he is a Tory and says things I don’t agree with. But:- He supports the death penalty ( as does apparently a small majority also do which he acknowledges is a small majority) l don’t support the death penalty but that doesn’t make him wrong it’s just his honestly held opinion to which he is entitled. He apparently said you can make a meal for 30 pence. Well maybe you can but it would be a shit meal and unlikely to fill you up. Well again it’s his own belief, but I’d love to see him on Saturday Kitchen trying to prove his point. I would rather we had people like him in politics , like say Dennis Skinner, unfortunately not elected last time round, on the other ( my) side who are not afraid to speak their mind. It would be so much better than the now woke PC brigade which seem to predominate. It makes for much more healthier debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HeliX Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: It would be so much better than the now woke PC brigade which seem to predominate. It makes for much more healthier debate. Which elected members of the Tory party does this refer to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 hours ago, HeliX said: Which elected members of the Tory party does this refer to? Penny Mordaunt for one. But it goes across the political spectrum. ( SNP Sturgeon with her ideas on gender) Granted more so on the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Penny Mordaunt for one. But it goes across the political spectrum. ( SNP Sturgeon with her ideas on gender) Granted more so on the left I don't like social justice warriors (Or their causes, more like, I think many are well-meaning) and I don't like Penny Mordaunt. But the reasons for not liking them are very different! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Professional nuisance, Steve Bray accepts Lee Anderson's challenge. You couldn't make it up 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/20/2023 at 10:08 PM, The Voice of Reason said: Watched a few clips featuring this Ashfield ex miner Tory MP. Ashfield is my neck of the woods where I grew up. In my younger years I would despise him because he is a Tory and says things I don’t agree with. But:- He supports the death penalty ( as does apparently a small majority also do which he acknowledges is a small majority) l don’t support the death penalty but that doesn’t make him wrong it’s just his honestly held opinion to which he is entitled. He apparently said you can make a meal for 30 pence. Well maybe you can but it would be a shit meal and unlikely to fill you up. Well again it’s his own belief, but I’d love to see him on Saturday Kitchen trying to prove his point. I would rather we had people like him in politics , like say Dennis Skinner, unfortunately not elected last time round, on the other ( my) side who are not afraid to speak their mind. It would be so much better than the now woke PC brigade which seem to predominate. It makes for much more healthier debate. Lee Anderson is nothing like Dennis Skinner the infamous Beast of Bolsover. Skinner was an honest, decent, passionate politician who believed he was there to serve his constituents and not himself. Lee Anderson is an arrogant fraud and the complete opposite. Here he is being caught out, by the the Daily Wail of all rags, setting up a tame constituent to say all the right things when he doorstepped them. Unfortunately Anderson forgot to turn off his radio mike when he made the "get ready" call so the whole set-up was recorded... https://youtu.be/4LmS9CzAY_s It seems to me the tory party is riven by these useless chancers... So anyone who thinks the inclusion of Lee Anderson makes for a "much more healthier debate" is completely deluding themselves @The Voice of Reason "The Voice Of Reason" - what a misnomer that is! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, P.K. said: Lee Anderson is nothing like Dennis Skinner the infamous Beast of Bolsover. Skinner was an honest, decent, passionate politician who believed he was there to serve his constituents and not himself. Lee Anderson is an arrogant fraud and the complete opposite. Here he is being caught out, by the the Daily Wail of all rags, setting up a tame constituent to say all the right things when he doorstepped them. Unfortunately Anderson forgot to turn off his radio mike when he made the "get ready" call so the whole set-up was recorded... https://youtu.be/4LmS9CzAY_s It seems to me the tory party is riven by these useless chancers... So anyone who thinks the inclusion of Lee Anderson makes for a "much more healthier debate" is completely deluding themselves @The Voice of Reason "The Voice Of Reason" - what a misnomer that is! Piss poor trolling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Piss poor trolling Nah. Just injecting a little realism about the nonsense you have posted... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 12:36 PM, P.K. said: Lee Anderson is nothing like Dennis Skinner the infamous Beast of Bolsover. Skinner was an honest, decent, passionate politician who believed he was there to serve his constituents and not himself. Quite so Dennis Skinner voted to leave the European Union on the 12th of April 2019 without a withdrawal agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Dennis Skinner voted in favour of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union and in favour of starting the process by 31 March 2017. That is indeed an honest, decent, passionate politician believing he was there to serve his constituents. Edited March 8, 2023 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Dennis Skinner ? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Anyone said: Dennis Skinner ? Really? Yes really. He was quite a critic of the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Anyone said: Dennis Skinner ? Really? Yes. He wasn't a critic of Europe per se but rather he was a lifelong Socialist and hated with a passion " the unacceptable face of capitalism" and all it's trimmings. When asked why he had voted against every European treaty since becoming an MP some 47 years previously he replied: “My opposition from the very beginning has been on the lines that fighting capitalism state-by-state is hard enough. It’s even harder when you’re fighting it on the basis of eight states, 10 states and now 28.” He couldn't be more different from Lee Anderson... @The Voice of Reason I suspect that simple truth doesn't sit well with your obvious agenda... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Skinner was great entertainment from the pulpit, but just another old fashioned utopian communist, full of that old time religion, promising bread, bullshit and salvation for all. Lee Anderson's politics are rooted in the everyday lives and concerns of real people. Not fantasy politics for the faithful and the true believers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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