Dirty Buggane Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Answers on a post card to A.ALLINSON mhk extraordinaire ,but shit with money. He knows with just 2 and a bit years to run he will be long gone before his Kwasi Kwarteng like decisions come to light/bear fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 18 minutes ago, WTF said: if there is any possible way for us to throw money away we will be up for it. Yeah maybe we get free replacement batteries but we have to dispose of the knackered ones by sending them to China at a cost of £30M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Yeah maybe we get free replacement batteries but we have to dispose of the knackered ones by sending them to China at a cost of £30M Chuck 'em down Foxdale mines, isn't that what usually happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Sailing info has been updated. Manannan crossing time today is 3 hrs 30 mins. Tomorrow it says 3hr 15. They should inform passengers when they anticipate fixing the problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 It's in the booking system that it's "on time" tomorrow as well which is annoying. That should be updated too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 The Steam Packet is one of the companies on this list: https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-owned-companies-could-be-questioned-by-public-in-future/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Two-lane said: The Steam Packet is one of the companies on this list: https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-owned-companies-could-be-questioned-by-public-in-future/ That's very interesting, because here is Alf Cannan announcing exactly six months ago saying that the Steam Packet wouldn't be subject to FoI and such impudence would undermine the position of the company. At the time people such as Chris Thomas were pointing out that he simply could make such a decision, it was against the current law. It looks like Cannan has finally realised or that CoMin has overruled him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: The Steam Packet is one of the companies on this list: https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-owned-companies-could-be-questioned-by-public-in-future/ What is the actual ownership relationship here? Does DFE own the majority of shares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: That's very interesting, because here is Alf Cannan announcing exactly six months ago saying that the Steam Packet wouldn't be subject to FoI and such impudence would undermine the position of the company. At the time people such as Chris Thomas were pointing out that he simply could make such a decision, it was against the current law. It looks like Cannan has finally realised or that CoMin has overruled him. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Marine Traffic says Actual time of departure: 2024-05-14 14:51 (UTC+1) Estimated time of arrival: 2024-05-14 18:20 (UTC+1) I wonder when they are going to fix it and when are they going to accurately update the schedules? Edited May 14 by lfc84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loungehake Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I understand that this whie elephant was the choice of policiticians. Steam-Packet wanted two more modest vessels. This error will for a long time be an millstone for the Isle of Man. £78million is extortionately expensive for a millstone. Will we have to put up with unreliable sailings for the next 25 years. I am assuming a 25 year life for Manxman. I doubt if it can be flogged off for anything like its price ticket. We are stuck with it big time. Ben-My-Chree was and is a most reliable vessel. I can no longer book my car for a trip to the IOM with confidence. I guess that the numpties who approved the specification for Manxman will bury their heads in the sand and be in denial. No one seems to have thought about such a large vessel being compatible with modest size harbours like Heysham and Douglas on its itinerary. I suppose that those responsible for Manxman were swayed by its glamour and size. There's one born every minute or so they say. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, Loungehake said: I understand that this whie elephant was the choice of policiticians. Steam-Packet wanted two more modest vessels. This error will for a long time be an millstone for the Isle of Man. £78million is extortionately expensive for a millstone. Will we have to put up with unreliable sailings for the next 25 years. I am assuming a 25 year life for Manxman. I doubt if it can be flogged off for anything like its price ticket. We are stuck with it big time. Ben-My-Chree was and is a most reliable vessel. I can no longer book my car for a trip to the IOM with confidence. I guess that the numpties who approved the specification for Manxman will bury their heads in the sand and be in denial. No one seems to have thought about such a large vessel being compatible with modest size harbours like Heysham and Douglas on its itinerary. I suppose that those responsible for Manxman were swayed by its glamour and size. There's one born every minute or so they say. Wouldn't know whether you are correct, but if you are, re the choice of Politicians, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Loungehake said: I suppose that those responsible for Manxman were swayed by its glamour and size. There's one born every minute or so they say. Or swayed by a groundless and unrealistic proposal for the transport requirements of 500,000 visitors a year by 2032? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 So, which of our Tynwald members voted to buy the Steam Packet? What were the arguments for? Against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, Loungehake said: I understand that this whie elephant was the choice of policiticians. Steam-Packet wanted two more modest vessels. This error will for a long time be an millstone for the Isle of Man. £78million is extortionately expensive for a millstone. Will we have to put up with unreliable sailings for the next 25 years. I am assuming a 25 year life for Manxman. I doubt if it can be flogged off for anything like its price ticket. We are stuck with it big time. Ships are expensive, even a direct BMC comparison would probably be £60m+. The Scottish ferries are paying £180m per vessel for the Scottish constructed ones, and the Turkey constructed ones are near £50m with very limited freight capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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