HeliX Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 He's a bloodthirsty cunt and belongs in the Hague. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 hours ago, HeliX said: He's a bloodthirsty cunt and belongs in the Hague. Of course the leadership of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Mad Mullahs are all as pure as driven snow... Maybe one day you will understand that sometimes people have to make difficult decisions and then others have to get hard, ugly things done. Not because they want to, but because they have to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 34 minutes ago, P.K. said: Of course the leadership of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Mad Mullahs are all as pure as driven snow... Maybe one day you will understand that sometimes people have to make difficult decisions and then others have to get hard, ugly things done. Not because they want to, but because they have to... No, they should be brought to justice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, HeliX said: No, they should be brought to justice too. Your "No" simply reinforces the point that there are some things you just can't bring yourself to acknowledge... So how are you going to mete out justice to the leadership in Tehran...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, P.K. said: Your "No" simply reinforces the point that there are some things you just can't bring yourself to acknowledge... So how are you going to mete out justice to the leadership in Tehran...? If you're referring to your second point about doing the hard but necessary, we already know that what Israel is doing won't eliminate Hamas. So it's unnecessary and stupid. The ICC can issue arrest warrants for those who've done wrong. As Netanyahu may find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 hours ago, HeliX said: If you're referring to your second point about doing the hard but necessary, we already know that what Israel is doing won't eliminate Hamas. So it's unnecessary and stupid. The ICC can issue arrest warrants for those who've done wrong. As Netanyahu may find out. The task is to eliminate the Palestinian Resistance Fighters and destroy as much of their infrastructure as possible. The more of this they achieve the longer it will take Hamas to come back in any numbers. Surely even you must agree that the destruction of a terrorist group is a worthy aim...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, P.K. said: The task is to eliminate the Palestinian Resistance Fighters and destroy as much of their infrastructure as possible. The more of this they achieve the longer it will take Hamas to come back in any numbers. Surely even you must agree that the destruction of a terrorist group is a worthy aim...? It's not an aim that has ever been accomplished by military action. This time is no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 13 minutes ago, P.K. said: The task is to eliminate the Palestinian Resistance Fighters and destroy as much of their infrastructure as possible. The more of this they achieve the longer it will take Hamas to come back in any numbers. Surely even you must agree that the destruction of a terrorist group is a worthy aim...? But at what cost. Transfer it back to Northern Ireland, or Cyprus, or Kenya or Malaysia, or the USA actions in Vietnam and South East Asia. 1. Destroying civilian infrastructure and killing civilians drives the insurgents/terrorists/freedom fighters/liberation or independence fighters underground and acts as a powerful recruiting tool. 2. it’s disproportionate when the civilian populations is so adversely affected, with casualties etc. 3. You’d not have suggested a scorched earth policy against every Catholic ghetto, residential area, school, church, hospital, in Northern Ireland, would you? And if you had, what would have been the effect, and the international reaction? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 6 hours ago, P.K. said: the Mad Mullahs How come this is OK? Imagine the froth if people went on about Rabid Rabbis. What's the difference? To be clear, I think the mullahs are indeed mad, just as I also think some Israelis are fucking rabid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 14 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: How come this is OK? Imagine the froth if people went on about Rabid Rabbis. My missus did for a long time - after that Ann Summers party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 35 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: My missus did for a long time - after that Ann Summers party. I don't think Rabbis have batteries Albert. Not last time I checked anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: I don't think Rabbis have batteries Albert. Not last time I checked anyway. I'm not sure you should be checking Rabbis for batteries. I wont ask where you supposed they might go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, John Wright said: But at what cost. Transfer it back to Northern Ireland, or Cyprus, or Kenya or Malaysia, or the USA actions in Vietnam and South East Asia. 1. Destroying civilian infrastructure and killing civilians drives the insurgents/terrorists/freedom fighters/liberation or independence fighters underground and acts as a powerful recruiting tool. 2. it’s disproportionate when the civilian populations is so adversely affected, with casualties etc. 3. You’d not have suggested a scorched earth policy against every Catholic ghetto, residential area, school, church, hospital, in Northern Ireland, would you? And if you had, what would have been the effect, and the international reaction? No.3... How is this conflict anywhere near comparable to Northern Ireland? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 It's not. Not even remotely, but these sweeping historical comparisons provide an easy framework and model of explanation. It's playing games with history based on a set of rules. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Shithousery by British Protestant elites caused both situations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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