Tarne Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm just reading the story on IoM today and in my opinion, except for the mental anguish of an abortion, that really it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure why we should be shamed at all, and in fact quite pleased it's that easy to do. A girl wanted an abortion, she got an abortion pill really quickly and cheaply in Liverpool. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=31739&headline=Teenager%27s%20plight%20should%20shame%20us%20all§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2017 It's not like Ireland where it really is a big problem to get an abortion, I mean the only problem I can see was she wasn't offered much support by Liverpool. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Its a non story in all respects Tarne, read it myself and it reads as though she got the treatment she wanted but the failings were in her travelling back too soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 It's not just me then. I was literally going "What the... but everything worked out fine?". I've re-read it a few times and I think the whole point is that the law says abortion is illegal to be performed over here, even though if it was legal they'd probably send you to Liverpool anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm just reading the story on IoM today and in my opinion, except for the mental anguish of an abortion, that really it was a piece of cake. Yeah, having to travel across and then having an abortion in an airport is a piece of piss. I do it for a laugh sometimes. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 White male says something that he biologically and mentally will never have worry about is easy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What's "white" got to do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The story is that for those types of abortions, pills at very early stage, they cant be performed on the IOM at all, and the Dr's here cannot send a patient to Liverpool as it would be conspiracy to do a criminal act. The current campaign is to allow abortion here on the same grounds as E&W under the 1967 Act, that would include the facility for a Dr here to prescribe and administer the pills on the NHS, saving the air fare and the clinic cost. This was a 16 year old. She made a mistake. It happens. Why should she have to fly to Liverpool and be put at risk. If it had happened here she wouldn't have been at the airport, shed have been home when the abortions started to occur. I don't approve of abortion as a form of birth control, there are many reliable forms of birth control, but in cases like this, or rape, or foetal abnormality or danger to mother I do feel that the pregnant woman should be allowed to have an abortion in safe surroundings and that it is her right to choose, within the limitations and parameters laid down by the law . What happened to that girl should never happen to anyone 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What's "white" got to do with it? Nothing really. Just guessing at Tarne's ethnicity. Although, its no coincidence that the majority of the time, decisions made that affect others in majority Caucasian countries are made by white males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wankleaks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm just reading the story on IoM today and in my opinion, except for the mental anguish of an abortion, that really it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure why we should be shamed at all, and in fact quite pleased it's that easy to do. A girl wanted an abortion, she got an abortion pill really quickly and cheaply in Liverpool. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=31739&headline=Teenager's%20plight%20should%20shame%20us%20all§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2017 It's not like Ireland where it really is a big problem to get an abortion, I mean the only problem I can see was she wasn't offered much support by Liverpool. Am I missing something? Ooooh. Controversial poster says controversial thing in a controversial way to deliberately wind people up on Internet forum. Yes getting an abortion is a piece of piss and probably the only thing you are missing to understand the mental anguish and true situation is a fanny. That said you appear to be a complete fanny. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 The story is that for those types of abortions, pills at very early stage, they cant be performed on the IOM at all, and the Dr's here cannot send a patient to Liverpool as it would be conspiracy to do a criminal act. See, that makes more sense than the whole article, I guess that's why you get the lawyer bucks! Now I get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Woman's right to choose in every case, always. She should be supported in every possible way and her considered way forward should be available for her on the Island whatever her means. It is a difficult enough time without having to worry about funding a trip and an operation elsewhere. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The story is that for those types of abortions, pills at very early stage, they cant be performed on the IOM at all, and the Dr's here cannot send a patient to Liverpool as it would be conspiracy to do a criminal act. See, that makes more sense than the whole article, I guess that's why you get the lawyer bucks! Now I get it. Flattery, Tarne, will get you nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ha! I was being serious. (Well, as much as serious gets on ManxForums) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The story is that for those types of abortions, pills at very early stage, they cant be performed on the IOM at all, and the Dr's here cannot send a patient to Liverpool as it would be conspiracy to do a criminal act. The current campaign is to allow abortion here on the same grounds as E&W under the 1967 Act, that would include the facility for a Dr here to prescribe and administer the pills on the NHS, saving the air fare and the clinic cost. This was a 16 year old. She made a mistake. It happens. Why should she have to fly to Liverpool and be put at risk. If it had happened here she wouldn't have been at the airport, shed have been home when the abortions started to occur. I don't approve of abortion as a form of birth control, there are many reliable forms of birth control, but in cases like this, or rape, or foetal abnormality or danger to mother I do feel that the pregnant woman should be allowed to have an abortion in safe surroundings and that it is her right to choose, within the limitations and parameters laid down by the law . What happened to that girl should never happen to anyone It's a sad story really when you read it. I have the same view as you in the main. I'd prefer the law not to permit abortions up to the current amount of weeks. I would question her statistics around 1 in 3 women getting abortions and 95% of them having no regrets about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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