Future Mann

[woolley]

2 hours ago, On The Bus said:

The words from David Christian are absolutely disgraceful. 

Tynwald need to put emergency powers in place and requisition the local authority assets. At the moment all that matters is the bins being emptied and streets cleaned as well as possible in the circumstances. 

Public sector rent can be collected centrally. 

There is no need for local authorities in this time of crisis. They are (and always have been) a total unnecessary layer of bureaucracy that slows down anything getting done. 

 

Right, so a civil service grab of all the local authorities. Fantastic. You want to pay twice as much for everything?

[Donald Trumps]

Chief Minister of Jersey @John_Le_Fondre  says there is "no question" that there will need to be a plan to replenish their Social Security Fund

[woolley]

1 hour ago, Donald Trumps said:

It's up to Tynwald to push the government establishment into active reponse to climate change & actually make itself useful

Climate change is so last year.

[Lxxx]

1 hour ago, yootalkin2me said:

I'd prefer to see all the South Africans go first.

I'd prefer to see more South Africans so they can outbreed the Manx

[woolley]

1 hour ago, yootalkin2me said:

I see a messianic kind of person rising from the ashes of Coronavirus to lead a revolution against the system, there will be civil unrest, fighting on the streets as neighbour will turn against neighbour....then, when the dust settles we all, those who survive, will have very little, a scorched earth of nothing where society has completely broken down and survival of the fittest begins...to exist in a barren wasteland.

Greta Thunderbox.

[Andy Onchan]

Just now, Lxxx said:

I'd prefer to see more South Africans so they can outbreed the Manx

Ooooh.... edgy... I like it! 

[asitis]

Greta is pissed off because climate change was supposed to kill us all, not a poxy virus !

[Donald Trumps]

You'd be forgiven for thinking that after today's Tynwald shenanigans

If Treasury is to raid the NI Fund then the nature of investment has to be to initiate a sustainable future

Not to prop up the enterprises that Treasury Minister Cannan himself has said 'may not survive'

[Lxxx]

Just now, asitis said:

Greta is pissed off because climate change was supposed to kill us all, not a poxy virus !

She's pissed off because she's now redundant and is currently filling in Job Seekers Allowance like the rest of us. 

[woolley]

1 minute ago, Donald Trumps said:

You'd be forgiven for thinking that after today's Tynwald shenanigans

If Treasury is to raid the NI Fund then the nature of investment has to be to initiate a sustainable future

Not to prop up the enterprises that Treasury Minister Cannan himself has said 'may not survive'

All of the reserves will be taking a hit already from the battering that all classes of investments have suffered over recent weeks. The ringfence wasn't very strong, was it?

[Donald Trumps]

Nope

[woolley]

3 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

You'd be forgiven for thinking that after today's Tynwald shenanigans

If Treasury is to raid the NI Fund then the nature of investment has to be to initiate a sustainable future

Not to prop up the enterprises that Treasury Minister Cannan himself has said 'may not survive'

Anyone speak against the raid on the NI fund? Was it meant to be borrowed or just taken? Of course it would make little difference because the £44m taken from the fund to build the hospital was supposed to be borrowed at first.

[Donald Trumps]

Would it be reasonable to seek a Tynwald committee of oversight?

Or should Treasury be permittted to allocate the £100m+ unsupervised?

[Donald Trumps]

2 minutes ago, woolley said:

Anyone speak against the raid on the NI fund? Was it meant to be borrowed or just taken? Of course it would make little difference because the £44m taken from the fund to build the hospital was supposed to be borrowed at first.

One or two members have popped up to make points but in the national spirit of unity encouraged within the Tynwald establishment divergence from the chosen path is unlikely to be tolerated

This is not the case in the States of Jersey who are having a similar debate at the same time

[Phillip Dearden]

6 minutes ago, woolley said:

All of the reserves will be taking a hit already from the battering that all classes of investments have suffered over recent weeks. The ringfence wasn't very strong, was it?

The ring-fence was a mere psychological barrier. The NI fund was always available to Tynwald - they make the rules. I am sure all MHKs would prefer to leave the NI fund alone but if the money is needed and not used, we (or some of us) would have been critical.

Really, the NI fund is just another pot of government money. Using it now will put pressure on future cash flows but I suspect most people will recognise the current environment as being quite exceptional.