Derek Flint Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 As someone highlighted on Twitter in riposte to David Christian’s assertions that Douglas Council couldn’t afford to lower rates; ”Douglas Council can’t afford Douglas Council” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: I see a messianic kind of person rising from the ashes of Coronavirus to lead a revolution against the system, there will be civil unrest, fighting on the streets as neighbour will turn against neighbour....then, when the dust settles we all, those who survive, will have very little, a scorched earth of nothing where society has completely broken down and survival of the fittest begins...to exist in a barren wasteland. Or it could go the other way and we come under a Totalitarian State where we are merely Ants in an Ant Colony all with roles to play and given a Universal Living Wage with exception to the Bourgeoisie at the very top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Derek Flint said: As someone highlighted on Twitter in riposte to David Christian’s assertions that Douglas Council couldn’t afford to lower rates; ”Douglas Council can’t afford Douglas Council” Thats a very good riposte and on the button. Surely any income from rates be they reduced is better than no rates at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: Or it could go the other way and we come under a Totalitarian State where we are merely Ants in an Ant Colony all with roles to play and given a Universal Living Wage with exception to the Bourgeoisie at the very top. Sounds like the farmers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecobob Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: As someone highlighted on Twitter in riposte to David Christian’s assertions that Douglas Council couldn’t afford to lower rates; ”Douglas Council can’t afford Douglas Council” That is glorious. He’ll be raging tonight tho. There will be some ‘Dirty Stinking Douglas’ emails getting fired off to staff members (hic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecobob Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: Or it could go the other way and we come under a Totalitarian State where we are merely Ants in an Ant Colony all with roles to play and given a Universal Living Wage with exception to the Bourgeoisie at the very top. You mean... Like now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Evolving situation. Iomtoday posted 7 minutes ago that Alf seeks Tynwald approval to raid the NI fund (sorry, can't link). ETA. To the tune of £100M. Previous £40M "not enough". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 That indeed appears to be the case Not sure it was ever intended to prop up the economy Tynwald must surely demand that funds removed be repaid Manx state pension is not adequate as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Ahh. The beloved flag of my youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Evolving situation. Iomtoday posted 7 minutes ago that Alf seeks Tynwald approval to raid the NI fund (sorry, can't link). ETA. To the tune of £100M. Previous £40M "not enough". £100m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, woolley said: Ahh. The beloved flag of my youth. That's you that is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, ecobob said: You mean... Like now? It's not there yet as there are so many tiers, we're heading for a two tier system and right now is just the start of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said: That indeed appears to be the case Not sure it was ever intended to prop up the economy Tynwald must surely demand that funds removed be repaid Manx state pension is not adequate as it is It will be if this virus hits the Island hard and it takes out a high percentage of 'coffin dogders'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 3 hours ago, pongo said: In a system of modern money, the island not having money would only ever be a political choice. The money we use can be created at will. Our access to that is political. It staggers me that people still don't understand this after 2008. Yes, I do understand it, but it isn't the answer to waste and excess. There still has to be discipline in the system otherwise the currency goes the way it did in Zimbabwe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 What needs to happen is an emergency budget every month while this continues. For each month, claw back 1/12th of each departments budget except for those actually working through this, such as health. All unnecessary internal reserves recalled. All unnecessary spending cancelled. That would be a couple of hundred million without breaking a sweat. As for climate change, fuck it! If we are not here to enjoy it, what is the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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