Armed police dealing with incident around Railway Station, North Quay roads closed

[De nada]

19 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

You’re never likely to get them in a hurry 

 

Unless they can bring their guns.

[Two-lane]

1 hour ago, Derek Flint said:

One of my lectures is on armed policing command failures.  There are still people ill suited and poorly equipped to lead complex operations.

Is that relevant to Cressida Dick - wrt Jean Charles de Menezes ?

[WTF]

1 hour ago, Passing Time said:

You’re never likely to get them in a hurry 

 

just say you can smell weed and they'll be there before you've hung up.

[Derek Flint]

12 hours ago, Two-lane said:

Is that relevant to Cressida Dick - wrt Jean Charles de Menezes ?

That wasn't a command failure believe it or not. Dick was exonerated of any personal fault. 

The one I focus on mainly is the Anthony Grainger Op Shire one

[The Phantom]

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/majority-of-crimes-last-year-occurred-in-douglas-and-onchan/

One whole crime in Bride last year.  I'd love to know what it was. 

[Andy Onchan]

1 minute ago, The Phantom said:

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/majority-of-crimes-last-year-occurred-in-douglas-and-onchan/

One whole crime in Bride last year.  I'd love to know what it was. 

"Majority of crimes last year occurred in douglas and onchan"...... That really is a "no shit sherlock" statement.

[Gladys]

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-man-admits-making-threatening-calls-to-police-headquarters/

Proportionate response? 

[Barlow]

On 8/27/2023 at 8:12 AM, Derek Flint said:

That wasn't a command failure believe it or not. Dick was exonerated of any personal fault. 

 

I think it goes without saying that there was no personal fault, as with any stuff that goes on in any organisation. It was on her watch. If the head of an organzation is unable to enforce standards then they are at fault. They are not doing the job they should be doing and can't command respect. That is the problem with promoting box tickers

[Gizo]

Eh!!!! 2725 crimes recorded and 17% were the Victoria south beat but then goes on to say 1420 crimes were recorded in the Victoria south? I’d say about 49% using quick maths. 
someone can’t do maths. 

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Gizo said:

Eh!!!! 2725 crimes recorded and 17% were the Victoria south beat but then goes on to say 1420 crimes were recorded in the Victoria south? I’d say about 49% using quick maths. 
someone can’t do maths. 

It doesn't say that though.  It says "Elsewhere the stats show that police were called to the Victoria South beat a total of 1,420 times".  But every time the police are "deployed" somewhere, it doesn't mean a crime was recorded, there were only 459 crimes recorded in Victoria South from those 1420 incidents.  There were 11,335 such call outs in total, so Victoria South was responsible for 12.5% of them.

All the information comes from the reply to Paul Craine's question here:

https://www.tynwald.org.im/spfile?file=/business/BusinessHansardIndex2126/W-202301-0765.pdf

A map showing the areas used is in the Chief Constable's Report:

As you can see Victoria South is all of Lower Douglas and the Proms and South Quay etc.

[Gizo]

So they were using two different variables interchangeably in the article without any explanation. Seems about right 🙄

[b4mbi]

2 hours ago, The Phantom said:

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/majority-of-crimes-last-year-occurred-in-douglas-and-onchan/

One whole crime in Bride last year.  I'd love to know what it was. 

Someone went there without a passport?

[The Phantom]

34 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

It doesn't say that though.  It says "Elsewhere the stats show that police were called to the Victoria South beat a total of 1,420 times".  But every time the police are "deployed" somewhere, it doesn't mean a crime was recorded, there were only 459 crimes recorded in Victoria South from those 1420 incidents.  There were 11,335 such call outs in total, so Victoria South was responsible for 12.5% of them.

All the information comes from the reply to Paul Craine's question here:

https://www.tynwald.org.im/spfile?file=/business/BusinessHansardIndex2126/W-202301-0765.pdf

A map showing the areas used is in the Chief Constable's Report:

As you can see Victoria South is all of Lower Douglas and the Proms and South Quay etc.

Frankly the designated 'Hills' region of southern Douglas sound a bit sinister to me. 

[TheTeapot]

2 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

Frankly the designated 'Hills' region of southern Douglas sound a bit sinister to me. 

 

'Asthehills'

[Derek Flint]

On 9/1/2023 at 1:31 PM, Barlow said:

I think it goes without saying that there was no personal fault, as with any stuff that goes on in any organisation. It was on her watch. If the head of an organzation is unable to enforce standards then they are at fault. They are not doing the job they should be doing and can't command respect. That is the problem with promoting box tickers

She wasn't the Head of the organisation. She was the strategic firearms commander. You need to understand how command decisions are made. Read APP Armed Policing and specifically the section on the National Decision Model.