HelmutX Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Why not just add (legislated fixed, not to be increased for 10 years )10p/liter in tax then those that use the road most will pay more - oh, no, that's too easy! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Bean Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, HelmutX said: Why not just add (legislated fixed, not to be increased for 10 years )10p/liter in tax then those that use the road most will pay more - oh, no, that's too easy! Its also not technically possible because of our VAT agreement with the UK..sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: Thomas has tried this before. Rob tried this last time, he admitted that he didn't read the details before posting it on Facebook....it was withdrawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Messiah Thomas on the NPM commenting he hopes the tax rise doesn’t cause people undue hardship. What a patronising comment, as most people know that any monies raised will be frittered away, and certainly not on the maintenance of roads. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) I wouldn't mind so much if the tax rates were based on a logical system. I have a Smart car, 903 cc which costs £58. I also have a 3litre Ford which costs £420. The Ford is used about 20 miles a month, the Smart (a diesel) is used maybe once a week for about 20 miles. So neither car can be called polluting compared to a works van or commuter car so how is the cost logical? I totally support a separate tax on fuel instead, the polluter pays. So what if we have an (agreement) with the UK? Change it for our benefit for once, I thought we were proud of our autonomy? Edited March 25, 2023 by doc.fixit 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 54 minutes ago, Manx Bean said: Its also not technically possible because of our VAT agreement with the UK..sadly. But fuel duty raised here, stays here. The VAT part goes into the bigger pot. Simply charge the VAT on the pre-duty fuel for the common purse and add the IOM Duty to that? It's not impossible, it just means someone in IOM Gov.com has to some bloody work and not just type into the poorly maintained GTS computer what the UK tells them to. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, x-in-man said: But fuel duty raised here, stays here. The VAT part goes into the bigger pot. Simply charge the VAT on the pre-duty fuel for the common purse and add the IOM Duty to that? It's not impossible, it just means someone in IOM Gov.com has to some bloody work and not just type into the poorly maintained GTS computer what the UK tells them to. Not sure it is possible but even if it was all businesses would be complaining as it would be adding extra costs to transporting goods around island which would inevitably lead to higher prices/inflation. Also buses,taxis etc would cost more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I thought that because of the common purse agreement we couldn't mess with duty rates, but someone recently pointed out on Twitter a bit of the legislation on alcohol duty that suggests that we can. Maybe there's a bit about fuel in there too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmutX Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Banker said: Not sure it is possible but even if it was all businesses would be complaining as it would be adding extra costs to transporting goods around island which would inevitably lead to higher prices/inflation. Also buses,taxis etc would cost more Done fairly then vehicle license (tax) would not be required (other than a regular examination for hire vehicles). But, "fairly" won't work if "Napoleon(s)" can't get their "equal" share. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 What percentage of road fund money is spent on roads? Not just the TT and Southern 100 that gets done on a monthly basis. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 My estimate would be close to fuck all 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Thomas Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Major Rushen said: What percentage of road fund money is spent on roads? Not just the TT and Southern 100 that gets done on a monthly basis. Most, depending on how you define "spent on roads". There are things like vehicle test centre and quarries also included in the Highways Division budget. In addition there are capital projects for major highways schemes. Edited February 9, 2023 by Chris Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Thomas Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 hours ago, doc.fixit said: I wouldn't mind so much if the tax rates were based on a logical system. I have a Smart car, 903 cc which costs £89. I also have a 3litre Ford which costs £420. The Ford is used about 20 miles a month, the Smart (a diesel) is used maybe once a week for about 20 miles. So neither car can be called polluting compared to a works van or commuter car so how is the cost logical? I totally support a separate tax on fuel instead, the polluter pays. So what if we have an (agreement) with the UK? Change it for our benefit for once, I thought we were proud of our autonomy? Call for evidence this year on approaches and bands I hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 While you're here can you shed some light on this six months tax malarkey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris Thomas said: Most, depending on how you define "spent on roads". There are things like vehicle test centre and quarries also included in the Highways Division budget. In addition there are capital projects for major highways schemes. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but most of us don't fucking drive in the test centre or the quarries.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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