Two-lane Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/spc-hits-out-at-mhks-for-asking-excessive-amount-of-manxman-related-questions/ https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/steam-packet-chairman-wants-government-to-maintain-arms-length-relationship/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 8 minutes ago, Two-lane said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/spc-hits-out-at-mhks-for-asking-excessive-amount-of-manxman-related-questions/ https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/steam-packet-chairman-wants-government-to-maintain-arms-length-relationship/ He is not wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 He's an arrogant tit. He's right that some people don't understand the concept of arms length. Politicians would have you believe it's done for good reason, when in fact it provides the worst of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: He's an arrogant tit. He's right that some people don't understand the concept of arms length. Politicians would have you believe it's done for good reason, when in fact it provides the worst of both worlds. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: He's an arrogant tit. He's right that some people don't understand the concept of arms length. Politicians would have you believe it's done for good reason, when in fact it provides the worst of both worlds. Arms length to me seems an ideal excuse for our lame politicos to say "not me guv, it were them " It is probably not a bad idea but it does give our shower the perfect get out when all goes to hell ! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, asitis said: Arms length to me seems an ideal excuse for our lame politicos to say "not me guv, it were them " It is probably not a bad idea but it does give our shower the perfect get out when all goes to hell ! Well it’s either arms length where politicians are supposed to leave the running of the company to the professionals and the steam packet board are experienced professionals no matter what the Facebook idiots think or it’s a government run body with constant political interference like MUA, Post Office, airport etc. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Well it’s either arms length where politicians are supposed to leave the running of the company to the professionals (and the steam packet board are experienced professionals no matter what the Facebook idiots think) or it’s a government run body with constant political interference like MUA, Post Office, airport etc. Well, yes - in theory, that’s how it’s supposed to work. But the politicians can’t stop interfering and meddling! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 hours ago, Banker said: airport etc. Which is a complete shitshow I agree ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 hours ago, Banker said: the steam packet board are experienced professionals That is just saying: "Trust them, they are experienced professionals". Mike Proffit is an experienced professional. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Well, yes - in theory, that’s how it’s supposed to work. But the politicians can’t stop interfering and meddling! Makes you wonder if those MHKs who hold ministerial or departmental positions and questioning the management of IOMSPCo if they do the same for their own government departments?! If they did then I think they'd soon be told to FO by their CS colleagues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 6 hours ago, Banker said: Well it’s either arms length where politicians are supposed to leave the running of the company to the professionals and the steam packet board are experienced professionals no matter what the Facebook idiots think or it’s a government run body with constant political interference like MUA, Post Office, airport etc. Not a lot to choose between any of them TBH. As long as we're bankrolling the racket it should not be arm's length. It's the worst of both worlds - we have to pay for it but have no democratic control over it whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 27 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Not a lot to choose between any of them TBH. As long as we're bankrolling the racket it should not be arm's length. It's the worst of both worlds - we have to pay for it but have no democratic control over it whatsoever. We, or Treasury, do as shareholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 14 minutes ago, Gladys said: We, or Treasury, do as shareholder. We, the Treasury, the MHKs, I, have no control unless we know what is going on. Ugland threw a wobbler because he was asked 6 questions. He refused to answer questions from the shareholder because they were not in the interests of the shareholder. Well, that's my interpretation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 hours ago, Banker said: Well it’s either arms length where politicians are supposed to leave the running of the company to the professionals and the steam packet board are experienced professionals no matter what the Facebook idiots think or it’s a government run body with constant political interference like MUA, Post Office, airport etc. If there are major issues with the Manxman, the Ben or Mannanan, which could be attributed to the actions of SPCo management, or directors, will they be responsible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Interfering is one thing. Asking questions in the name of transparency for those doing the bankrolling is something else. And not interference. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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