Stu Peters Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Would you expect the execs from the HQ to occasionally visit the subsidiary to check what is going on? As noted above, they do. 4 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Stu, I'm sure you won't care, but I had hoped you would do better than others that have gone before. But now it seems you're a paid up, card carrying member of Club Tynwald. Like I said, I'd much rather stay at home and sleep in my own bed, so going to that there London holds zero appeal for me, but if I can network a bit and influence a couple of MPs who think we're near Southampton, it will have been worth the trip. 28 minutes ago, Gladys said: Except the UK is not our parent. Like I said Gladys, a stretched analogy. But since the UK is responsible for our 'good governance', defence, international relations and a good chunk of our income is predicated on the common purse agreement, I don't think it's an unreasonable one. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Alf and his cronies touting 'The Island Plan' to a group of proper politicians would be worth seeing. What are the objectives of the trip and how is success judged? Historically these have been a disaster for the island, and i hate to say it...but we are not exactly sending world beating intellectuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think we are responsible for our own good governance, otherwise it ain't good governance. The UK may come and kick a few arses, accepted. Do we still have a common purse agreement? Pretty sure that went 40 or more years ago. The point is, if we are going with an almost feudal obligation, we aren't as "independent" as we like to think, and perhaps we should just recognise that and get on with making the best of the reality rather than pretending otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Stu Peters said: As noted above, they do. Like I said, I'd much rather stay at home and sleep in my own bed, so going to that there London holds zero appeal for me, but if I can network a bit and influence a couple of MPs who think we're near Southampton, it will have been worth the trip. Like I said Gladys, a stretched analogy. But since the UK is responsible for our 'good governance', defence, international relations and a good chunk of our income is predicated on the common purse agreement, I don't think it's an unreasonable one. C'mon Stu. You might have been influencing over Crogga, but influencing MPs? The UK may well be strategically important, so send the big bods, not the kids on a school trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Gladys said: I think we are responsible for our own good governance, otherwise it ain't good governance. The UK may come and kick a few arses, accepted. Do we still have a common purse agreement? Pretty sure that went 40 or more years ago. The point is, if we are going with an almost feudal obligation, we aren't as "independent" as we like to think, and perhaps we should just recognise that and get on with making the best of the reality rather than pretending otherwise. "Parent" was a reasonable analogy for the senior counterparty in a relationship with a "dependency", and they are indeed known to have kicked a few arses over the years like a traditional parent will. The revenue divvy up might have a different name nowadays but that's just picking over semantics. Maybe we are as independent as we think, but how independent do we think we are? I've never been under any illusions. We've made it work for us though, one way and another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Stu Peters said: and I think is far more valuable than some of these past CPA trips to far-flung places seemed to be With that "internal" assessment of CPA trips thus publicised, can we expect them to stop anytime soon then? Or is the competition to exceed Rodan's Airmiles haul still ongoing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 hours ago, NoTailT said: so send the big bods Do we have any ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, asitis said: Do we have any ? By title, at least. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubbiali Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Non-Believer said: With that "internal" assessment of CPA trips thus publicised, can we expect them to stop anytime soon then? Or is the competition to exceed Rodan's Airmiles haul still ongoing? This. And didn`t someone (and no doubt with a sitable entourage) go swanning off to Rwanda recently. Rwanda??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubbiali Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Stu Peters said: As noted above, they do. Like I said, I'd much rather stay at home and sleep in my own bed, so going to that there London holds zero appeal for me, but if I can network a bit and influence a couple of MPs who think we're near Southampton, it will have been worth the trip. Like I said Gladys, a stretched analogy. But since the UK is responsible for our 'good governance', defence, international relations and a good chunk of our income is predicated on the common purse agreement, I don't think it's an unreasonable one. A reserved OK to your last point, but ten of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Phil Gawne's trip to Sierra Leone to flog a boat was the best one. A real Hemingway adventure for Phil. I'll bet he thought Sierra Leone was an Italian film director or perhaps a hot porn star before they crayoned it in for him on the map. Unfortunately it was a return ticket too. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 In respect of saving money here's one ... The FSA has I think 83 employees, looking at the wage bill the average over that figure is 68K. A very few are on the biggest money how much are we paying for the staff of this place. Maybe Spuan could direct the new incumbent to look at this edifice for his 1.2 million savings. The CSP industry is the biggest single tax contributor to the islands coffers, but we seem hell bent on gold plating every regulation to put them out of business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Isn't there a similar number on the Attorney General's staff (I think Roger dug that up) yet they still didn't have a clue what they were doing or why they were there at the Ranson appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: Isn't there a similar number on the Attorney General's staff (I think Roger dug that up) yet they still didn't have a clue what they were doing or why they were there at the Ranson appeal. Except the lawyer representing DHSC at the Ransom appeal, and indeed since the original interim decision was handed down, isn’t AG but private practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: Isn't there a similar number on the Attorney General's staff (I think Roger dug that up) yet they still didn't have a clue what they were doing or why they were there at the Ranson appeal. I think there are 77 working in the AG's office currently , its now the largest legal practice in the Isle of Man ! all I can say its a growth industry , 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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