piebaps Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 woolley, on 21 Feb 2014 - 11:42, said: The stonking deals of lump sums and pensions they are walking away with are another issue entirely but one that restricts the savings we are making. One man's "stonking deals of lumps sums and pensions" is another man's legally binding contract. Rightly or wrongly, these are legally binding promises we (via the Government) have made with these people. Alf Cannan has already made changes to alter the terms of any new contracts and that is a positive step. Undoing what has already been done is however much more difficult. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Not if we bring back hanging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 woolley, on 21 Feb 2014 - 11:42, said: The stonking deals of lump sums and pensions they are walking away with are another issue entirely but one that restricts the savings we are making. One man's "stonking deals of lumps sums and pensions" is another man's legally binding contract. Rightly or wrongly, these are legally binding promises we (via the Government) have made with these people. Alf Cannan has already made changes to alter the terms of any new contracts and that is a positive step. Undoing what has already been done is however much more difficult. serious question , how did they alter the T&c's of the bus drivers or cut salaries in Ireland or Have I missed something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 woolley, on 21 Feb 2014 - 11:42, said: The stonking deals of lump sums and pensions they are walking away with are another issue entirely but one that restricts the savings we are making. One man's "stonking deals of lumps sums and pensions" is another man's legally binding contract. Rightly or wrongly, these are legally binding promises we (via the Government) have made with these people. Alf Cannan has already made changes to alter the terms of any new contracts and that is a positive step. Undoing what has already been done is however much more difficult. serious question , how did they alter the T&c's of the bus drivers or cut salaries in Ireland or Have I missed something? What he said. What Tynwald granted Tynwald can take away. Times have changed and all of that. Or can we trash the contracts of those that don't really matter but not the contracts of really important people? And if we are talking about legally binding agreements and the matter has to be tested in court, I would imagine that who agreed what with whom would all have to be examined to ensure that there were no conflicts of interest involved at the time such agreements were drawn up. In other words, if these various agreements were drawn up say, 30 years ago between trade unions representing public sector staff on the one side and public sector staff representing er, the taxpayer on the other side, in the way of human nature, might those agreements be just the tiniest bit suspect in their generosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Mona Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I haven't actually read the Order that was passed, so who is actually liable for this? Me as a tenant or my landlord whose property it is? Is John Wright the expert on here on matters regarding rent and rates? Perhaps he can explain the implications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 From Chris Thomas's facebook page: IOM Toilet Tax made it into the UK Independent Newspaper 'outrageous taxes' article. Hope they don't get any more ideas from the others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatBlokeAgain Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 How many of the petition signers will be with me at the small claims court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibaba Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Not many. What for exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta laue y jouyl ayn Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 ThatBlokeAgain come on I very intrigued as to what Small Claim action you are planning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam_Sandwich Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) So have we got a confirmed list of who voted for/against this? I'll be honest. I've got no right to an opinion as I've never voted. This though has got me riled up enough to ensure I can vote. And vote against who elected it to go through Edited February 22, 2014 by Jam_Sandwich 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'd love for this to be a defining 'Poll tax' moment in the islands political history. If only enough people could be arsed enough about it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 LXXX, in what sense do you mean a defining 'PollTax' moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 "Pay No Poo Tax" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I wonder how much money would be raised if we implemented a couple of laws that are already there for the enforcing? How much is the standard fine for using a mobile 'phone whilst driving? And how many people are fined each year? And what is the total money raised each year? How much is the average fine for owners not clearing up after their dogs? And how many people are fined each year? And what is the total money raised each year? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon selector Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Excellent post. Say £500 fine for allowing dog excrement in a public place. That's 10 people's tax right away. Up our road I reckon 100 people's tax could easily be covered. Enforcing the existing laws would soon put a stop to these dirty, filthy, disgusting, selfish people. But I would gladly pay £50 a year if it meant our streets and pavements were clear of dog shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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