TheTeapot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Only if Russia attempts to us violence illegitimately. Hmmm. I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree. The War Against Terror, certainly the early bits of the war in Afghanistan was NATO. US called it, part of the treaty, 'an attack on one is an attack on all' or whatever. You'd have to go some way to convince me NATO acted within its remit there. The very existence of NATO represents a threat to Russia. That is inarguable. You can argue its merits or whatnot as much as you want, but simply by being a military thing it represents a threat to someone who is not part of the thing. Unless you talk and are friends (Sweden). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Hmmm. I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree. The War Against Terror, certainly the early bits of the war in Afghanistan was NATO. US called it, part of the treaty, 'an attack on one is an attack on all' or whatever. You'd have to go some way to convince me NATO acted within its remit there. The very existence of NATO represents a threat to Russia. That is inarguable. You can argue its merits or whatnot as much as you want, but simply by being a military thing it represents a threat to someone who is not part of the thing. Unless you talk and are friends (Sweden). I think Russia (CCCP) has forcibly occupied more countries in Europe since WW2 than NATO. You do not see Russia wanting to hand back Kaliningrad or the large amount of Polish territory it still has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Unless you talk and are friends (Sweden). Sweden have got a remarkably strong military and their equipment is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 9 hours ago, manxman1980 said: you left out the letter u in neighbours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 17 hours ago, Passing Time said: you left out the letter u in neighbours I didn't make the graphic. I found it and thought it amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Passing Time said: you left out the letter u in neighbours You didn't capitalise the y or use a full stop. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentience Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ManxTaxPayer said: You didn't capitalise the y or use a full stop. Hear we go, topic derailment by humour (sic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Looks a bit dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Putin’s speech is mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Inevitable after that speech, the invasion has begun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 He's off his tits. He's had two years of ultra paranoid isolation and he's cracked up, and now loads of people will die. Someone should just kill him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Would shooting Putin solve anything though? Read an interesting take on the situation, Russia's motivation, Ukrainian resistance, etc... https://www.economist.com/interactive/2022/02/11/russias-military-build-up-enters-a-more-dangerous-phase?utm_medium=cpc.adword.pd&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=a.russia.2022-02-18&utm_content=conversion.non-brand.anonymous&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQiAjc2QBhDgARIsAMc3SqR6O7lmtYawjz6gkbHfZrFMs61xhKI84l1gs1YoetnKh9HeEJapuHYaArTMEALw_wcB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Armoured columns now moving into Donetsk this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Big sanctions coming on Russian oligarchs and their dirty roubles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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